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I watched a Republican debate and every single one was against going to Mars. Anyone know any Democrats who support it? I know its not incredibly popular but I really thing a second space race would kick some ass.
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I have to say... I would truly love to see it happen in my lifetime.... but I am just not sure it can be justified.

Right now there are very few really solid practical reasons to send people to Mars.
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Eh, by the time we get there, Starbucks will already have franchises all over the planet...
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I pretty much echo Graham when I say I'd love to see it, but it's unlikely to happen.
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Can anyone remember who, when asked why go to the moon (or wherever it was) answered: "because it's there"?

Whoever he was, he had a point.
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I have no idea if this stat is ture since most are BS but last I heard 60% of people either didnt believe or had doubts that we ever got to the moon.
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Teaos wrote:I have no idea if this stat is ture since most are BS but last I heard 60% of people either didnt believe or had doubts that we ever got to the moon.
Which... pisses me off something fierce.

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I agree with Striker.
We can't float in the kitty pool forever, there will always be problems here at home, so that argument doesn't work either.
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I remember seeing a doco on how the moon landing was fake back when I was in high school. At the time it seemed believeable but as soon as me and my friends talked about it we realised that like 3 of their 5 main points were total BS and the other 2 I was quickly able to find out was also BS.

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Captain Seafort wrote:Can anyone remember who, when asked why go to the moon (or wherever it was) answered: "because it's there"?

Whoever he was, he had a point.
"Because it's there" is fine and dandy, when it's your time and resources you are expending to do something. It works less well when you are saying we should spend a couple of hundred billion dollars of everyone's money on it with no real return.
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I'd rather see someone go to Mars than what most of my Taxes get wasted on.
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Teaos wrote:I'd rather see someone go to Mars than what most of my Taxes get wasted on.
But you'd rather live in a country where you don't have to pay taxes.
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Not pay much taxes.
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Seafort wrote:Can anyone remember who, when asked why go to the moon (or wherever it was) answered: "because it's there"?
I'm not sure of this is who you're reffering to, but John F Kennedy said something to that effect in a speech when talking about the moon.

Unfortunately, going there just because it's there would be a major waste in resources, money and time.
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It was mountaineer George Mallory, replying to the question of why he wanted to climb Mount Everest. (I thought it was Edmund Hillary, but I looked it up in case I was wrong. I was.)
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