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Second Star to the Right, and Straight on 'Til Morning

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Admittedly, the metaphor doesn't make perfect sense, but I was reminded of that sequence when I read the article.

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Storied Carrier, 'the Big E,' Makes Final Voyage

NORFOLK, Va. (AP) — When the makers of "Top Gun" were filming on board the USS Enterprise, they donated a set of black fuzzy dice to liven up the ship's otherwise drab interior.

A quarter-century later, the dice will still be dangling inside the tower of "the Big E" as the world's first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier sets sail on its final voyage Sunday.

The trinket is a reminder of the ship's storied 50-year history that includes action in several wars, a prominent role in the Cuban missile crisis and serving as a spotter ship for John Glenn's historic orbit of the earth.

"To serve on this ship, certainly in this capacity, you certainly have to be a student of the ship's history," said Rear Adm. Walter Carter, commander of the Enterprise strike group. "Fifty years of service, in our nation's history, we've never had a warship in service that long."

The Enterprise is the longest aircraft carrier in the U.S. fleet. It is also the oldest, a distinction that brings pride as well as plenty of headaches for the ship's more than 4,000 crew members. The ship is effectively a small city that frequently needs repairs because of its age. It was originally designed to last 25 years, but a major overhaul in 1979 and other improvements have extended its life.

The ship largely looks like any other carrier on the inside and has modern amenities like gyms, a coffee shop and a television station with dozens of channels. It even produces its own daily newspaper while at sea.

But even the best-maintained ship faces challenges as it ages.

"It's kind of like when you get older and you know it's harder to get out of the bed in the morning. It takes you a couple hours to kind of really get up and then you're fine. Well, it's the same sort of thing here with Enterprise," Capt. William Hamilton, the ship's commanding officer, said days before the ship was set to deploy from Naval Station Norfolk.

Hamilton acknowledged all aircraft carriers have problems they're supposed to anticipate, but he said the Enterprise is more likely to have "unknown unknowns" than newer ships.

Machinists in charge of fixing unexpected problems say the things that can break down range from critical air conditioner units to elevators that lift fighter jets from the hangar bay to the flight deck. Moreover, the Enterprise has eight nuclear reactors to maintain — six more than any other U.S. carrier.

The problems are so notorious that sailors reporting to work aboard the Enterprise are often given joking condolences by their colleagues on shore and on other ships.

The ship regularly has to make its own parts from scratch when something breaks down. Spare parts for much of the ship, which is the only one of its class, simply don't exist.

"Life is hard on Enterprise," Hamilton said. "But when they leave here, they leave knowing if they can do this, they can do anything."

The challenges aboard the ship and the need to keep spirits up were highlighted last year, when former commanding officer Capt. Owen Honors was fired for airing raunchy videos that he said were intended to boost morale. During a hearing in which Honors was trying to avoid being kicked out of the Navy, he and his lawyers frequently referenced the difficult conditions on board. Honors was found to have committed misconduct, but ultimately allowed to stay in the service. He is retiring in April.

Hamilton acknowledged that maintaining morale on the ship — which has unofficial mottos like "There's tough, and then there's Enterprise tough" and "We eat pain like candy" — is still vital.

"As much as anything, it's just telling them face to face that you appreciate, the Navy appreciates, the nation appreciates what they're doing and then that goes a long, long way," he said.

The ship's crew members feel particularly proud to serve on a ship whose name has a distinguished place in naval history and pop culture.

Crew members who weren't even alive when "Top Gun" was in theaters in 1986 use the film to explain what it is they do on the ship, as well as exactly where it is they do it.

For Petty Officer 1st Class Brian Dennis, there's also pride in his ship having the same name as the ship featured in the "Star Trek" series.

"I always wanted to be a part of history, so being on this last deployment it'll be something I can definitely tell my children and grandchildren," he said.

The Enterprise is heading to the Middle East on its seven-month deployment, where it will be on standby in case of conflict with Iran or piracy threats off Somalia, among other things. The ship has experience with both scenarios, participating in a retaliatory strike against Iran for mining the Persian Gulf in 1988 and responding last year to the hijacking of a sailing vessel by Somali pirates, during which all four Americans on board were shot and killed.

The deployment will be the ship's 22nd. Following its return to Virginia in the fall, tens of thousands are expected to be on hand for a deactivation ceremony Dec. 1 that President Barack Obama has been invited to attend.

If "Top Gun" producer Jerry Bruckheimer wants to film a sequel, he'll have to find another ship. The following summer, Enterprise will be towed to the shipyard where it was built in nearby Newport News so its nuclear fuel can be removed, a process that will take until 2015. What remains of the ship after that will then be taken to Washington state so it can be scrapped.

The ship, among the first to respond after the Sept. 11 attacks, won't be turned into a museum like some other carriers. Crews have to cut large holes in the vessel to remove the nuclear fuel, and it would be too expensive to repair, said Lt. Cmdr. Sarah Self-Kyler, the Enterprise's public affairs officer.

Instead, many of the ship's alumni want another carrier to be named Enterprise in the future, which is not uncommon, she said.

This is the eighth ship to bear the name Enterprise, and there's a room on board dedicated as a museum to past incarnations. The preceding USS Enterprise was the most decorated ship in World War II, while the first Enterprise joined the U.S. fleet after it was captured from the British in 1775.

If a future carrier is renamed Enterprise, it's unclear if the fuzzy dice will make journeys on board that ship, too, or remain in a Navy museum.
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Scrapped? A shame it couldn't be turned into a museum ship.
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This Enterprise, while having done a bit, just isn't on par with her predecessor's achievement (the sole carrier survivor of the Battle of Midway, if I remember well?).

I just hope the name will live on in another carrier eventually. And not just because of our favourite franchise, but for the real-world weight this name has in military history.
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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Scrapped? A shame it couldn't be turned into a museum ship.
How many carriers turned into museums can private funding support? We already have the USS Intrepid.
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SolkaTruesilver wrote:This Enterprise, while having done a bit, just isn't on par with her predecessor's achievement (the sole carrier survivor of the Battle of Midway, if I remember well?).

I just hope the name will live on in another carrier eventually. And not just because of our favourite franchise, but for the real-world weight this name has in military history.
Both the Enterprise and Hornet survived the Battle of Midway. The only (American) carrier lost was Yorktown. Enterprise CV-6 Does have the distinction of being the most decorated ship of WWII.
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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Scrapped? A shame it couldn't be turned into a museum ship.
How many carriers turned into museums can private funding support? We already have the USS Intrepid.
And while in terms of achievement, it may not quite match it's illustrious predecessor I think it should be preserved as the first practical Nuclear Aircraft Carrier -- I mean we keep the Nautilus around after all.
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Sonic Glitch wrote:
SolkaTruesilver wrote:This Enterprise, while having done a bit, just isn't on par with her predecessor's achievement (the sole carrier survivor of the Battle of Midway, if I remember well?).

I just hope the name will live on in another carrier eventually. And not just because of our favourite franchise, but for the real-world weight this name has in military history.
Both the Enterprise and Hornet survived the Battle of Midway. The only (American) carrier lost was Yorktown. Enterprise CV-6 Does have the distinction of being the most decorated ship of WWII.
Thanks for the clarification :)
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Sonic Glitch wrote:And while in terms of achievement, it may not quite match it's illustrious predecessor I think it should be preserved as the first practical Nuclear Aircraft Carrier -- I mean we keep the Nautilus around after all.
The Nautilus has the distinction of a very important first - one that was auspicious both in its own right, and as pretty important message at the time. Moreover, my comment was more directed at the idea of preserving Ent as a museum specifically - we already have carrier museum, and such things are not funded through the defense budget.
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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:Scrapped? A shame it couldn't be turned into a museum ship.
I remember reading that Henry Leach's response to a suggestion that the old Ark should be turned into a museum ship was that scrapping her was the ship's equivalent of a decent human burial.
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SolkaTruesilver wrote:This Enterprise, while having done a bit, just isn't on par with her predecessor's achievement (the sole carrier survivor of the Battle of Midway, if I remember well?).
Both the Enterprise and Hornet survived the Battle of Midway. The only (American) carrier lost was Yorktown.
Longer-term though the Big E was the only survivor, given that Hornet was lost at Santa Cruz before the year was out.
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Hmm, okay, Seafort and Mikey. Good points brought up there. I bow to you in this matter. :)
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Captain Seafort wrote:
Sonic Glitch wrote:
SolkaTruesilver wrote:This Enterprise, while having done a bit, just isn't on par with her predecessor's achievement (the sole carrier survivor of the Battle of Midway, if I remember well?).
Both the Enterprise and Hornet survived the Battle of Midway. The only (American) carrier lost was Yorktown.
Longer-term though the Big E was the only survivor, given that Hornet was lost at Santa Cruz before the year was out.
True, though "Surviving the war" and "surviving the battle" are two distinct questions ;)
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Sonic Glitch wrote: True, though "Surviving the war" and "surviving the battle" are two distinct questions ;)
Ant this is where I got it confused :lol:
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The best we can hope for is that the distinctive island being preserved but that is about it. Ripping out the reactors and trying to turn it in a museum would be incredibly expensive that there would be very little hope of funding.
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