Most hated Complete Monster in fiction?

[SuperSaiyaMan12]

Personally, I hate Shira from Blade of the Immortal

Here is a list of his deads:

He's first seen (deep breath) murdering a prostitute (who had just been introduced as a Hooker With A Heart Of Gold who was just in the business to pay for her mother's medicine) supposedly because she didn't have the information she wanted. Then, the morning after he joins up with heroes Manji and Rin, he gives Rin a motivational speech over breakfast, and then reveals that they've been eating the stray dog she had befriended the night before. After that, he and Rin are attacked by a pair of assassins, who Shira kills, but not before savagely, gleefully torturing one with his saw-edged sword. He then turns to the unarmed woman who had led them into the trap and tortured her as well when Rin turns on him. Would've ended badly if Manji hadn't shown up and cut his hand off. He runs off and isn't seen for a while... until he comes back for revenge against Manji, having turned his arm stump into a weapon by carving the flesh off the end and sharpening the bones. He battles Manji's companion Magatsu, the friend of the aforementioned sweet little prostitute, and reveals to him that the reason he killed her wasn't because of information, it was because he liked cutting up women while he has sex with them, because it made their muscles seize up... all of them. He finally gets his other hand cut off and falls down a waterfall... but the brutalities still keep coming as Shira is revealed to be still alive (now missing both hands and an eye, which he claims to have replaced with a weapon) having been salvaged by his employers. His employer then asks if he's chosen a new set of hands yet, and we see a dead hooker and savaged-looking young boy in Shira's cell. With dialogue implying that he raped both of them all night long, Shira says the boy will be his hands. He's topped himself...he's killed fan favorite, Cool Big Sis Hyakurin in the same way he killed O-Rei...

[Mikey]

I have absolutely no idea what any of that said. However, if you're taking votes on the most hated/feared monster in any culture, I'm going to have to say Apophis.

[Sonic Glitch]

I have absolutely no idea what any of that said. However, if you're taking votes on the most hated/feared monster in any culture, I'm going to have to say Apophis.

I believe he's asking about fictional stories, so to take your offering of Apophis as a Stargate reference, I do believe Anubis trumps him.

[Sionnach Glic]

What do you mean by "most hated"? Do you mean the greatest number of people that fears them? If so, Emperor Palpatine would win out easily, given that he rules and entire galaxy with an iron fist. Or do you mean "which complete monster of a character do you hate the most"? Given your own example, I'm leaning towards the latter.

The only character in fiction that I've ever despised so much that I wanted him to die (when I'm supposed to despise him, that is, so Neelix doesn't count) a slow and unpleasant death was Lijah Cuu from the Gaunt's Ghosts novel series. The psychotic fether killed two of my favourite characters.

Spoilers for Guns of Tanith and Sabbat Martyr follow.

The first time you encounter him in the books is in Honour Guard, where he initialy seems to be just a cold and unpleasant soldier. Through the course of the book he quickly establishes himself as an expert fighter, and someone who enjoys killing things far too much. It's the next book Guns of Tanith that really makes him someone who you're actually worried about the safety of the other characters he's left alone with. From the very beginning of the book, where he menaces Larkin with a knife and later deliberately wounds Braggs during a training exercise, it's clear he's dangerous to both the enemy and his supposed allies. About midway through the book he's found looting civilian homes, and at the very end he reveals that he raped and murdered a civilian woman before murdering Braggs, who had blown the whistle on his looting and gotten him flogged.
It's Sabbat Martyr where he really becomes a full scale villain character. He murders Muril for accusing him of murdering Braggs and makes an attempt on Larkin's life for the same reason. Later, a pysker uses his murderous tendancies to turn him into an assassin, where he kills Colonel Corbec and wounds Gaunt and Dorden while trying to take out Saint Sabbat. Fittingly, it's Larkin who kills him.
"Ghost" Cuu also makes a brief but very good re-appearance in Only in Death where he threatens to murder Larkin for killing him.

[SuperSaiyaMan12]

Strangely, Emperor Palpatine doesn't classify as a Complete Monster according to TVtropes. He's a Magnificent Bastard.

And there are many complete monsters who are loved by fans. Example is Johann Leibert from the manga/anime Monster:

Johan Liebert, the eponymous character of Monster. You may appreciate his abilities as a Magnificent Bastard, and you may consider his scenes the best in the series, but the extremes that he goes to (such as teaching youth to play chicken on ledges, or sending a boy looking for his mother in a red light district, or killing people who took him in and cared for him) completely negate any sympathy that his could elicit in the audience.

Yet the female fans love him due to his good looks. He's something called a 'Draco in Leather Pants' to them.

However, someone like Shira from Blade of the Immortal has NO fans and is the most hated character in the series. He regularly crosses the moral event horizon, hell his first act was the raping and killing of O-Rei, Magatsu's girlfriend who works as a prostitute in a Brothel, literally cutting her up to make all her muscles contract while he's in her. He's the most evil person I've ever read, even going into Berserk level cruelty.

[Sionnach Glic]

So exactly what is it that you're looking for? Characters that are utterly despised to the point that no one likes them?
If so, presumably you mean characters that are intended to be hated, yes? So people like Neelix and Wesley are out, correct?

If so, I'm not too sure whether or not Cuu counts. No one likes him, that's for sure, but I do like how well the character was written. It's not easy to make a character that utterly despising without being ridiculously over the top about his actions.

[SuperSaiyaMan12]

So exactly what is it that you're looking for? Characters that are utterly despised to the point that no one likes them?
If so, presumably you mean characters that are intended to be hated, yes? So people like Neelix and Wesley are out, correct?

If so, I'm not too sure whether or not Cuu counts. No one likes him, that's for sure, but I do like how well the character was written. It's not easy to make a character that utterly despising without being ridiculously over the top about his actions.

I'm looking for characters who do evil acts, routinely cross the Moral Event Horizon, and have no fans. Neelix and Wesley are out, they're Scrappies, but not Complete Monsters.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/M ... eteMonster

[Mikey]

I have absolutely no idea what any of that said. However, if you're taking votes on the most hated/feared monster in any culture, I'm going to have to say Apophis.

I believe he's asking about fictional stories, so to take your offering of Apophis as a Stargate reference, I do believe Anubis trumps him.

What are you talking about? I don't watch Stargate. Apophis was the serpent demon of the Egyptian underworld, at least by the time of the adoption of The Book of the Dead. Apophis had the potential to completely eradicate the passage of time and the movements of the celestial bodies, effectively ending life as we know it. Anubis was a guardian and guide - hardly a monster at all.

The only character in fiction that I've ever despised so much that I wanted him to die (when I'm supposed to despise him, that is, so Neelix doesn't count) a slow and unpleasant death was Lijah Cuu from the Gaunt's Ghosts novel series. The psychotic fether killed two of my favourite characters.

Don't forget the rape and murder of the civilian woman during Operation Larisel, for which Caff almost hung. I agree with you on this one... it's a point for the quality of Abnett's writing that I was actually upset, even when I put the book down, about Bragg and Corbec... and I cheered out loud when I read the scene in wich Larks killed Cuu. For true despicability from that series, I'd also nominate Noches Sturm.

[Sonic Glitch]

I have absolutely no idea what any of that said. However, if you're taking votes on the most hated/feared monster in any culture, I'm going to have to say Apophis.

I believe he's asking about fictional stories, so to take your offering of Apophis as a Stargate reference, I do believe Anubis trumps him.

What are you talking about? I don't watch Stargate. Apophis was the serpent demon of the Egyptian underworld, at least by the time of the adoption of The Book of the Dead. Apophis had the potential to completely eradicate the passage of time and the movements of the celestial bodies, effectively ending life as we know it. Anubis was a guardian and guide - hardly a monster at all.

I had forgotten if you watched Stargate or not but I figured it could be either an Egyptian Underworld reference or a Stargate Reference. While based on the Egyptian underworld frame of reference I certainly agree Apophis is the more monster-lie (i've also learned more about Apophis reading your post than I have in 6 years of history classes). In the first 8 seasons of Stargate SG-1 (and in the Movie), the main Bad Guy Aliens had taken the persona of ancient Earth dieties, mostly Egyptian (ie Ra, Anubis, Apophis, Heru-ur, Sokar, etc while there were also some ancient Chinese, Japanese, and Celtic Gods amongst others), and of the Goa'Uld System Lords ( what they called their ruling council), Anubis was definitely the most powerful, most feared and most hated. He was banished from the System Lords for committing acts that were too heinous even for them -- and this was a bunch of over-bearing, Megalomaniacal, parasites with a God Complex who had enslaved entire species for millenia.

[Mikey]

i've also learned more about Apophis reading your post than I have in 6 years of history classes

To be fair, by the time of The Book of the Dead, Egyption religion had fallen into a decadent quagmire of superficial mysticism, personal magic, and charm-selling. However, the account is that Seti was pursued on his journey into the underworld at several of the noted hours by Apophis. By the time of Seti's mystical merge with Ra (who, by the time of the Book appears more like a precursor of Aton than anything else) Seti has only been able to escape by Apophis by calling on a large number of the odd deities which have appeared in Egyptian faith by this time and basically running whil Apophis was engaged. After the merge with Ra, it is fairly clear that it is very much in doubt that Seti is home free from Apophis - who, if succesful in overtaking Seti/Ra, will prevent the sun from rising. In a society as agrarian as Egypt's was - and dependent on both daily and seasonal cycles as well as the cycle of the Nile floods - that was equivalent to armageddon.

Anubis was definitely the most powerful, most feared and most hated. He was banished from the System Lords for committing acts that were too heinous even for them

I can only imagine that as Anubis was regarded as a populist god, and his appearance was "interesting" and therefore widely publicized in the modern world, his was a primary one chosen for a role on the show. It also probably had something to do with the prevalence of Anubis imagery in some of the more publicized archaeological finds in the eraly 20th century.

[Sionnach Glic]

Actually, Anubis didn't turn up until ~Series 8 or so. He was one of the last Goa'uld to become known.

[JudgeKing]

Actually, Anubis didn't turn up until ~Series 8 or so. He was one of the last Goa'uld to become known.

He was first mentioned in Season 5 Episode 11, however his first actual appearance was in the season 5 finale. Anubis counts as a complete monster because he committed crimes so horrible that the system lords themselves are forbidden to speak of them.

[Vic]

Star Gate Anubis also trumps all of the other worms because he actually ascended (allbeit with some help mind you).

I have to completely agree about Lijah Cuu, he is the first character in my life that I actively wanted to see dead. I think I actually cheered out loud when he was finally butchered.