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We're Out Of Time

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:08 am
by Tsukiyumi
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081214/ap_ ... ming_obama

I have the feeling that 100 years from now, people will label all of us as shortsighted, selfish idiots who had plenty of time to do something about it, and chose to ignore the problem. And, for the most part, they'll be right.

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:12 am
by Aaron
You know a massive effort to deploy nuclear reactors everywhere we can would be awesome (and helpful in the greenhouse problem) but I have a feeling that as long as the West is the only one trying to anything we'll be hearing lots of "durr, them Chinese and Indians are pumping out gas, why should we change?"

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:50 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Yeah, it's gotta be worldwide, not isolated. Scary, though.

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:04 am
by stitch626
Think of what Janeway said in Year of Hell. My favorite Janeway moment. "Time's up."
Not my favorite in this instance though.

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:27 am
by Teaos
I'd be lying if I said I was worried.

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:14 pm
by shran
In 100 years I may not even be alive, i amy have produced offspring, but Earth and humanity survuved warmer and colder periods than this one, even without the means of today, o I don't consider it to be too much a problem for the survival of humanity, but more a problem of destroying our eco-system.

We need Captain Planet. Fast.

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:26 pm
by stitch626
:lol:
I'm quite confident that people will survive this. I'm not worried at all. It just bothers me that it has gotten this bad.

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 4:04 pm
by Mikey
Cpl Kendall wrote:You know a massive effort to deploy nuclear reactors everywhere we can would be awesome (and helpful in the greenhouse problem) but I have a feeling that as long as the West is the only one trying to anything we'll be hearing lots of "durr, them Chinese and Indians are pumping out gas, why should we change?"
Well, there's stupid problems holding things up even internally in the US (I know, you're shocked. :P )

Enviro-nuts like the Sierra Club have things like the opening of Yuma Mt. waste storage facility held up in endless litigation for trivialities, while the technology is continuing to be refined (although not exploited) for both small-pellet reactors and fast reactors - which would need places like Yuma for start-up, but would end up actually recycling and producing valuable second-tier additions to the grid by using the waste from first-tier reactors. However, the enviro-nuts suffer from the same myopia as the far right, and are willing to ignore the HUGE long-term benefits of such a grid supply in order to focus on litigating based on reported differences of 500 years out of 10,000 year half-lifes. Even though their "expert" witnesses were overridden in court 10 to 1, BTW.

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:15 pm
by Mark
Bypass nuclear power! Go right to that neutron generator thing that could blow up the world!

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:57 pm
by Mikey
Umm... yeah. Or that.

No, I'm talking about real, current technology. Fast reactors actually use as fuel the tainted waste fuel left from traditional fission.

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:50 pm
by Sionnach Glic
They do? That's pretty good.

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:41 pm
by Mark
I've never heard anything about that :confused:

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 7:43 pm
by Aaron
Mark wrote:I've never heard anything about that :confused:
CANDU reactors can and do burn the waste or material from nuclear weapons, unfortunately the Canadian retard population loses their mind when it's announced they are transporting it to a site.

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:46 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Typical. I hate how everyone automaticaly assume Nuclear Power Planet = Chernobyll.
Hell, you wouldn't believe the amount of bitching that was going on over here when the British - not us, the Brits - opened a new nuclear power plant on their west coast.

Re: We're Out Of Time

Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 3:15 pm
by Mikey
Cpl Kendall wrote:
Mark wrote:I've never heard anything about that :confused:
CANDU reactors can and do burn the waste or material from nuclear weapons, unfortunately the Canadian retard population loses their mind when it's announced they are transporting it to a site.
Exactly the problem with the asylum- er, I mean, Sierra Club - that I described above regarding the litigation against the opening of Yuma Mt. waste storage.