We're Out Of Time

[Tsukiyumi]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081214/ap_ ... ming_obama

I have the feeling that 100 years from now, people will label all of us as shortsighted, selfish idiots who had plenty of time to do something about it, and chose to ignore the problem. And, for the most part, they'll be right.

[Aaron]

You know a massive effort to deploy nuclear reactors everywhere we can would be awesome (and helpful in the greenhouse problem) but I have a feeling that as long as the West is the only one trying to anything we'll be hearing lots of "durr, them Chinese and Indians are pumping out gas, why should we change?"

[RK_Striker_JK_5]

Yeah, it's gotta be worldwide, not isolated. Scary, though.

[stitch626]

Think of what Janeway said in Year of Hell. My favorite Janeway moment. "Time's up."
Not my favorite in this instance though.

[Teaos]

I'd be lying if I said I was worried.

[shran]

In 100 years I may not even be alive, i amy have produced offspring, but Earth and humanity survuved warmer and colder periods than this one, even without the means of today, o I don't consider it to be too much a problem for the survival of humanity, but more a problem of destroying our eco-system.

We need Captain Planet. Fast.

[stitch626]

I'm quite confident that people will survive this. I'm not worried at all. It just bothers me that it has gotten this bad.

[Mikey]

You know a massive effort to deploy nuclear reactors everywhere we can would be awesome (and helpful in the greenhouse problem) but I have a feeling that as long as the West is the only one trying to anything we'll be hearing lots of "durr, them Chinese and Indians are pumping out gas, why should we change?"

Well, there's stupid problems holding things up even internally in the US (I know, you're shocked. )

Enviro-nuts like the Sierra Club have things like the opening of Yuma Mt. waste storage facility held up in endless litigation for trivialities, while the technology is continuing to be refined (although not exploited) for both small-pellet reactors and fast reactors - which would need places like Yuma for start-up, but would end up actually recycling and producing valuable second-tier additions to the grid by using the waste from first-tier reactors. However, the enviro-nuts suffer from the same myopia as the far right, and are willing to ignore the HUGE long-term benefits of such a grid supply in order to focus on litigating based on reported differences of 500 years out of 10,000 year half-lifes. Even though their "expert" witnesses were overridden in court 10 to 1, BTW.

[Mark]

Bypass nuclear power! Go right to that neutron generator thing that could blow up the world!

[Mikey]

Umm... yeah. Or that.

No, I'm talking about real, current technology. Fast reactors actually use as fuel the tainted waste fuel left from traditional fission.

[Sionnach Glic]

They do? That's pretty good.

[Mark]

I've never heard anything about that

[Aaron]

I've never heard anything about that

CANDU reactors can and do burn the waste or material from nuclear weapons, unfortunately the Canadian retard population loses their mind when it's announced they are transporting it to a site.

[Sionnach Glic]

Typical. I hate how everyone automaticaly assume Nuclear Power Planet = Chernobyll.
Hell, you wouldn't believe the amount of bitching that was going on over here when the British - not us, the Brits - opened a new nuclear power plant on their west coast.

[Mikey]

I've never heard anything about that

CANDU reactors can and do burn the waste or material from nuclear weapons, unfortunately the Canadian retard population loses their mind when it's announced they are transporting it to a site.

Exactly the problem with the asylum- er, I mean, Sierra Club - that I described above regarding the litigation against the opening of Yuma Mt. waste storage.