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BigJKU316 wrote: Sadly in the US people have the right to speak freely. I don't agree with what they have to say (in fact I think its stupid and childish) but if protecting the right to freely speak ones views on issues means US troops or even myself might be targeted by the other side and killed I can live with it as the price for living in a democratic society.

I agree completely. People do, and indeed should, have the freedom to do this. I wasn't trying to suggest that they didn't or shouldn't - just that it's a idiotic and needlessly confrontational move on their behalf.

On another note, I'd be amused to see just how the guy organising this event would react of American Muslims held a "Burn a Bible Day" event. I have a strong feeling that "we have the freedom to do it" wouldn't be acceptable in that case.

Mikey wrote:I would say that people try to do things the American way because it is perceived as leading to that standard of living.

Almost certainly so. Amongst Americans it was percieved as the path to ataining the whole "American Dream" thing. And such an outlook isn't a bad thing, provided it doesn't turn into "the American Way is the only way".

Also, I'm just going to pre-emptively put my foot down and say that this is not to turn into a discussion about Israel's action. I realise I'm the one who first brought it up, but it was not intended to be anything more than an example to illustrate how two nations can be looked at with wildly different expectations. This comment isn't aimed at anyone in particular, but if you do want to discuss Israel then I suggest starting another thread.

SolkaTruesilver wrote:If you want to adress me in term of my cultural identity, then I am Quebecois. French-Canadians (outside Quebec) have their own culture and behavior which is different. Calling me a "French-Canadian" is like calling a Scot a British. It's not wrong, but it's definetly not precise ennough.

What if I were to just call you a Canadian?

Good call. I was on the verge of doing that myself, but I'm currently occupied by a crappy disaster movie.

Crappy disaster movie week?

I said this before in regards to the whole 9/11 mosque, and I'll say it again now. Hate is never a good response to hate.

Lighthawk wrote:I said this before in regards to the whole 9/11 mosque, and I'll say it again now. Hate is never a good response to hate.

Hate is always effective when supported by bullets.

Deepcrush wrote:

Lighthawk wrote:I said this before in regards to the whole 9/11 mosque, and I'll say it again now. Hate is never a good response to hate.

Hate is always effective when supported by bullets.

You're confusing hate with violence. Hate is never a good answer because it will always cause more hate. Violence can be a good answer depending on the situation though. Not an ideal answer, but we do have to live in reality.

Lighthawk wrote:You're confusing hate with violence. Hate is never a good answer because it will always cause more hate. Violence can be a good answer depending on the situation though. Not an ideal answer, but we do have to live in reality.

I'm not confusing anything, violence is simply one of two end results of someone's hate.

Lighthawk wrote:I said this before in regards to the whole 9/11 mosque, and I'll say it again now. Hate is never a good response to hate.

Funny you bring that issue up. Apparently, they might use that very issue to solve both problems at the same time.

Not holding my breath for now, but just hoping...