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The resistance is an excellent point that wasn't brought up yet. You think the Maquis in France were bad? Wait until you see the Brits having a go at it.

There's also the fact that with the majority of the German military machine bogged down in Britain trying to secure it and destroy the British Army, Stalin may well see this as the best time to launch an attack on the Reich. With the best of Germany's troops stuck in Britain and lacking their heavier tanks of the latter part of the war, expect the Soviets' T-34 spam to wreack havok throughout Poland and Germany.

Exactly. It may even bring the Americans relunctantly into the war too. Without a relative safe haven for it's troops to be based in for a launchpoint, the US might enter the war to prevent it.

Deepcrush wrote:I feel proud of myself for getting through about 10 minutes of that show. The whole thing is based off the idea that Germany had triple its normal resources and that the English just bent over. While I'm not England's number one fan. I can promise you that no "Proper Englishman" would do any less then kick the ever loving hell out of the Germans upon landing.

Even Hitler in all his stupidity never saw the Invasion of England as a smart move. That should say something to us all.

You may want to skip to the second half of the documentary. The first half talks about the plan on paper, the second half deals with realities. I thought the documentary didn't do a good enough time stating that the first half was on paper not reality.

Sionnach Glic wrote:The resistance is an excellent point that wasn't brought up yet. You think the Maquis in France were bad? Wait until you see the Brits having a go at it.

Second half goes into detail on that. Says basically that the resistance would have been very effective for the first few months then dies out due to lack of supplies. What I thought was really interesting was when they were talking about who would lead England. Edward VIII came up and so did Lord Halifax for 'Free England'.

I think we can all agree the possibility of conquering England would be pretty remote without the change of a lot of history but its fun to see how the Germans would have done it if all went magically to plan.

Monroe wrote:You may want to skip to the second half of the documentary. The first half talks about the plan on paper, the second half deals with realities. I thought the documentary didn't do a good enough time stating that the first half was on paper not reality.

I think you're right on both counts. A, they didn't cover the what-ifs very well. B, if they start talking about how this "Could have been real" I'd have to kill someone.

Monroe wrote:

Sionnach Glic wrote:The resistance is an excellent point that wasn't brought up yet. You think the Maquis in France were bad? Wait until you see the Brits having a go at it.

Second half goes into detail on that. Says basically that the resistance would have been very effective for the first few months then dies out due to lack of supplies. What I thought was really interesting was when they were talking about who would lead England. Edward VIII came up and so did Lord Halifax for 'Free England'.

I think we can all agree the possibility of conquering England would be pretty remote without the change of a lot of history but its fun to see how the Germans would have done it if all went magically to plan.

Does the second half of the documentary happen to explain why the very idea of Operation Sealion is nonsense?

Monroe wrote: Second half goes into detail on that. Says basically that the resistance would have been very effective for the first few months then dies out due to lack of supplies. What I thought was really interesting was when they were talking about who would lead England. Edward VIII came up and so did Lord Halifax for 'Free England'.

I think we can all agree the possibility of conquering England would be pretty remote without the change of a lot of history but its fun to see how the Germans would have done it if all went magically to plan.

Yeah cause that totally happened with the Dutch, Belgians, French, Yugos and Russians...right?

Gawd what a moronic statement. And yeah, I realize it isn't you stating this Monroe.

Indeed. Great Britain has one hell of a coastline. It'd be simply impossible for the Kriegsmarine to police it properly. So even assuming that every single thing that could be used to resist Nazi occupation was captured in Britain itself, the RN could sail casually up to a beach somewhere and dump crates full of guns and ammo (probably with Colt or Winchester stamped on them) to insurgents all over the country. And hell, smugglers could easily operate out of Ireland, shipping supplies over here and then sending them over the GB in small boats.

Yup and the Brits could do what the rest of Europe did; take the stuff they need off dead Jerry's.

Aye, there's that too. Every successful ambush is another load of supplies for the insurgents.

Sadly it didn't go into why Sealion wouldn't work. However it did go into how Hitler planned to rule England. It uses the channel islands as its source and a lengthy field manual for how to deal with the British. Apparently the British were going to be treated the nicest out of all the subjugated peoples. Way to miss out :p
Towards the end of the first half it talked briefly about how they would deal with the Americans with long range bombers and the possibility of developing the nuke first.

Oh man, long range bombers and nukes! Who ever produced this was an A-1 tool.

I think someone has been reading too many stories with...

Monroe wrote:Sadly it didn't go into why Sealion wouldn't work. However it did go into how Hitler planned to rule England. It uses the channel islands as its source and a lengthy field manual for how to deal with the British. Apparently the British were going to be treated the nicest out of all the subjugated peoples. Way to miss out :p
Towards the end of the first half it talked briefly about how they would deal with the Americans with long range bombers and the possibility of developing the nuke first.

Yeah, I ain't watching the rest of that. The first 30 minutes or so were enough for me.

Out of curiousity, anyone know who made that "documentary"?