Goodbye to Ted Kennedy

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Goodbye to Ted Kennedy

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He may be a respected, and long-serving senator, but I honestly don't feel sorry for the S.O.B. in the slightest. After the Chappaquiddick "incident", he should've spent the last forty years in prison, not enacting legislation in the US government. It's just like OJ Simpson or Robert Blake; if you've got money and fame in this country, you can get away with crimes that would certainly earn the average person a prison sentence.

For those not familiar with it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident

Enjoy your fatal tumor, Ted!
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Okay..
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Hey, you guys might think I'm a terrible person for being somewhat pleased by this turn of events, but the point stands that he killed a woman (maybe it was an accident, but his total inaction turns it into manslaughter at least), and remained in the senate for decades.

If that woman had been one of my friends, or someone I cared about, Senator Kennedy would've gotten a one-way ticket to the bottom of the sea via cement shoes years ago.
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I'm not a big fan of his personal life. Not many people who kill someone is high on my to-like list but he's done good things professionally.
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Monroe wrote:...but he's done good things professionally.
Maybe so, but the point stands that he should've gone to prison, not home to his mansion and senate career.
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Well I don't really disagree that it was terrible the thing got smoothed over with some money. But the family didn't press charges or pursue an investigation, either, so maybe they believed it was really an accident. I know that if my parents thought someone killed me and it wasn't a pure accident they wouldn't take a lump sum and quietly go away.

My statement was more just a "not really sure what to say here" sort of thing. You're not giving us a question or something to argue over, darn it. ;)
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Duskofdead wrote:My statement was more just a "not really sure what to say here" sort of thing. You're not giving us a question or something to argue over, darn it. ;)
Yeah, I suppose not. I just always get happy when bad people get what's coming to 'em. :wink:
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I certainly don't disagree with you, Tsu, that Ted has earned everything he's gotten and then some. I would even go so far as to say that the whole Kennedy curse is just one big buttload of karma. However, where I disagree with you is that in my estimation, someone would have to be at a Hitler-level - or at least Pol Pot-level - of evil in order for me to wish a potentially fatal brain tumor on him, or to be pleased by it.
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Mikey wrote:I certainly don't disagree with you, Tsu, that Ted has earned everything he's gotten and then some. I would even go so far as to say that the whole Kennedy curse is just one big buttload of karma. However, where I disagree with you is that in my estimation, someone would have to be at a Hitler-level - or at least Pol Pot-level - of evil in order for me to wish a potentially fatal brain tumor on him, or to be pleased by it.
That's kinda how I felt too Mikey. Someone's gotta be really really really really really bad. There's only one person I ever kinda did a dance over getting a fatal illness. (Coughcough Rehnquist cough)
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I just tend to imagine the situation from a personal level, and like I said, if it was someone I cared about that had been left to suffocate in a submerged car because some rich piece of sh*t couldn't be bothered to call for help, a fatal brain tumor would seem like a light sentence compared to what I'd do.
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Tsukiyumi wrote:I just tend to imagine the situation from a personal level, and like I said, if it was someone I cared about that had been left to suffocate in a submerged car because some rich piece of sh*t couldn't be bothered to call for help, a fatal brain tumor would seem like a light sentence compared to what I'd do.
No offense Tsuki, but you didn't know the girl. Are you looking for a reason to be angry? Her parents didn't pursue anything, apparently they didn't think this was something malicious he should be locked away for four decades over, so why should we? Unless there is some reason to believe they were coerced to back off, which would be another story.
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It's entirely possible that they were "advised" to not pursue the matter. And, like I stated, I'm viewing the situation from a personal level; if something similar happened to someone I care about, the offender would certainly not have continued breathing for long, accident or no.

Did you read the link I posted? He passed four houses that he could've called for help from on his way back to the party. Then he gets to the party and calls for help, right? No, he gets his two buddies, tells them not to say anything to anyone else, then goes back to his hotel room and goes to sleep. When someone else spotted the car the next day, then he goes to the police, after talking with his attorney. And the law simply let him slide.

Maybe it was an accident, but him not running for help immediately, and trying to shrug the incident off makes him a murderer, IMO.
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Tsukiyumi wrote:It's entirely possible that they were "advised" to not pursue the matter. And, like I stated, I'm viewing the situation from a personal level; if something similar happened to someone I care about, the offender would certainly not have continued breathing for long, accident or no.

Did you read the link I posted? He passed four houses that he could've called for help from on his way back to the party. Then he gets to the party and calls for help, right? No, he gets his two buddies, tells them not to say anything to anyone else, then goes back to his hotel room and goes to sleep. When someone else spotted the car the next day, then he goes to the police, after talking with his attorney. And the law simply let him slide.

Maybe it was an accident, but him not running for help immediately, and trying to shrug the incident off makes him a murderer, IMO.
What he did was totally wrong, but I would be terrified in the same situation too. Me, though, I wouldn't be able to sleep.
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Duskofdead wrote:What he did was totally wrong, but I would be terrified in the same situation too. Me, though, I wouldn't be able to sleep.
I would've been scared out my mind, but I would've called for help immediately. He got back to his hotel at 2AM, then complained about loud people in an adjacent room. Then, he went to sleep.
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We don't know how it went down. If there actually was an air pocket in the car that she was in he should have gone to jail for manslaughter.

But an air pocket wasn't actually there or her face wasn't in it than it was over after he failed to get back down to the car.

Personaly I would have liked to have seen some more punishment for passing those houses by.
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