Hypocrisy, environmental callousness - the US isn't alone!

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:02 am

To me, it's more of a logistical issue. 6 billion humans vs. 30,000 some-odd whales. Extinction is a serious issue, and one that humans don't really face currently. If we were facing extinction ourselves, I would certainly condone this type of slaughter. At the moment, I find a few hundred humans with no morals or ethics expendable in comparison to a species facing eradication.

Captain Peabody · Post by **Captain Peabody** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:31 am

You don't get out much, do you? There are plenty of people that would gladly sell you and your entire family into slavery if it could make them a profit. So, by your logic those "people" deserve more consideration than an innocent, intelligent life-form simply because they are human?

Yes... I honestly think that the life of a human (even that of a big, bad Japanese whaler) is worth more than that of a humpback whale. Make of that what you will...

P.S. - Peabody - you are familiar with things such as sarcasm and hyperbole, right?

Oh, I agree; and I know you were only joking. It's just that it seemed a little out of line to me... eco-terrorism is a serious issue, and I'm very wary of any attempt to use enviromentalism as an excuse to kill fellow humans. In my opinion, no number of whales are worth that. But you're right that I'm probably taking all of this too seriously...

I guess I need to lighten up a bit...

To me, it's more of a logistical issue. 6 billion humans vs. 30,000 some-odd whales. Extinction is a serious issue, and one that humans don't really face currently. If we were facing extinction ourselves, I would certainly condone this type of slaughter. At the moment, I find a few hundred humans with no morals or ethics expendable in comparison to a species facing eradication.

Well, I have a big, big problem with that view. I agree that what Japan is doing is way out of line, but so is any type of enviromentalism that would sacrifice human lives for the sake of 'nature.' You can protest, debate, pass laws, or whatever; but the moment you think you're morally justified to kill others just because they're threatening your precious whales, then you've lost me.

JudgeKing · Post by **JudgeKing** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:59 am

Nonsense, send the US Missouri to torpedo a few Greenpeace(pronounced Greenpiss) boats.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:30 am

JudgeKing wrote:Nonsense, send the US Missouri to torpedo a few Greenpeace(pronounced Greenpiss) boats.

Do you have anything to do other spam the board with your shit? Your posts are generally useless one-liners in the middle of a debate like this one, or copy-pasting other people's work and taking the credit for it like you did in A&D. Either contribute meaningfully to a meaningful debate or keep out of it.

Post by **Mikey** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 11:54 am

Moderation has certainly never been one of my strong suits, but what I believe is that the question is not one of relative numbers, but of individual value. I don't believe thata humpback whale's life is more valuable than a human's - but neither do I believe it is less valuable.

Jim · Post by **Jim** » Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:15 pm

Captain Peabody wrote:Um... honestly, however out of line it is, I don't think any number of whales is worth a human life. So if it comes down to enviromentalists hanging whalers, or whalers harpooning protected species, then I'm on the whalers' side. Period.

Whilst I am definately NOT a tree hugger or anything like that, I do not put much value in the average human life over that of any other animal. Tha is not saying that I think animal life in improtant, but a statement on your basic human trash. Agent Smith had it right.