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WASHINGTON - Sonia Sotomayor pushed back vigorously Tuesday against Republican charges that she would bring bias and a liberal agenda to her seat as the first Hispanic woman on the Supreme Court, insisting repeatedly she would be impartial as GOP senators tried to undercut her with her own words from past speeches.

For all the pointed questioning in a grueling, daylong hearing, there was little doubt that President Barack Obama's first high court choice - with solid backing from the Democrats and their lopsided Senate majority - would be confirmed. Sen. Patrick Leahy, Democratic chairman of the Judiciary Committee, said as much - and predicted she would receive at least some Republican backing.

Sotomayor, 55, kept her composure - judge-like, supporters said - during the intense day of questions and answer, listening intently and scribbling notes as senators peppered her with queries, then leaning into her microphone and gesturing for emphasis as she responded. She returns for another full day of questioning on Wednesday.

"My record shows that at no point or time have I ever permitted my personal views or sympathies to influence the outcome of a case," the appeals court judge declared during a tense exchange with Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, the top Republican on the committee that is conducting this week's confirmation hearings. He repeatedly questioned her ability to be objective as a Supreme Court justice, citing her own comments.

Sotomayor backed away from perhaps the most damaging words that had been brought up since Obama nominated her seven weeks ago - a 2001 comment suggesting that a "wise Latina" judge would usually reach better conclusions than a white man. She called the remark "a rhetorical flourish that fell flat."

"It was bad because it left an impression that I believed that life experiences commanded a result in a case, but that's clearly not what I do as a judge," Sotomayor said.

She also distanced herself from the man who nominated her, after Republican Sen. Jon Kyl asked whether Sotomayor shared Obama's view - stated when he was a senator - that in some cases, the key determinant is "what is in the judge's heart."

"I wouldn't approach the issue of judging in the way the president does," she said. "Judges can't rely on what's in their heart. They don't determine the law. Congress makes the laws. The job of a judge is to apply the law."

Republicans sounded unconvinced by Sotomayor's defense.

"I am very troubled that you would repeatedly over a decade or more make statements" like the one in 2001, Sessions said.

And Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said Sotomayor's answers Tuesday were starkly at odds with her previous comments. "That's what we're trying to figure out - who are we getting here?" he said.

During her first chance to answer questions publicly, Sotomayor stopped short of calling the right to abortion settled law but also said, "All precedents of the Supreme Court I consider settled law subject to" great deference but not absolute. Under repeated questioning, she said she'd have an open mind on gun rights.

She also defended her most frequently criticized ruling: a decision by a three-judge panel of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals last year to dismiss the claim of white firefighters in New Haven, Conn., who alleged racial discrimination after being denied promotions.

The Supreme Court reversed the ruling late last month, and critics point to it as evidence that Sotomayor lets her own racial bias trump the law.

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.: "You said that, quote, you would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would reach wise decisions. ... So tell us, you've heard all of these charges and countercharges, the wise Latina and on and on. Here's your chance. You tell us -- you tell us what's going on here, judge."

Sotomayor: "I gave a variant of my speech to a variety of different groups, most often to groups of women lawyers or to groups, most particularly, of young Latino lawyers and students. As my speech made clear in one of the quotes that you reference, I was trying to inspire them to believe that their life experiences would enrich the legal system, because different life experiences and backgrounds always do. I don't think that there is a quarrel with that in our society. I was also trying to inspire them to believe that they could become anything they wanted to become, just as I had."

Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala.
"I think it's consistent in the comments I've quoted to you and your previous statements that you do believe that your backgrounds will accept -- affect the result in cases, and that's troubling me. So that is not impartiality. Don't you think that is not consistent with your statement, that you believe your role as a judge is to serve the larger interest of impartial justice?"

Sotomayor: "No, sir. As I've indicated, my record shows that at no point or time have I ever permitted my personal views or sympathies to influence an outcome of a case. In every case where I have identified a sympathy, I have articulated it and explained to the litigant why the law requires a different result. ... I do not permit my sympathies, personal views, or prejudices to influence the outcome of my cases."

Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis.: "As you know, judge, the landmark case of Griswold v. Connecticut guarantees that there is a fundamental constitutional right to privacy as it applies to contraception. Do you agree with that? In your opinion, is that settled law?"

Sotomayor: "That is the precedent of the court, so it is settled law."

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Kohl: "In your opinion, is Roe settled law?"

Sotomayor: "The court's decision in Planned Parenthood v. Casey reaffirmed the court holding of Roe. That is the precedent of the court and settled, in terms of the holding of the court."

"People all over the country are tired of courts imposing their will against one group or another without justification," said Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, questioning how Sotomayor approached the case.

Sotomayor said the lawsuit, in which New Haven scrapped the results of a promotion test because too few minorities did well, was not about quotas or affirmative action.

"We were following precedent," she said.

Nominee Dodges Issue of Signing Statements
Leahy was the first to question Sotomayor on the case, and he teed up a sympathetic portrayal of her approach, saying she would have been criticized however the panel had ruled - "You're damned if you do and damned if you don't," he said. Prodded by Leahy, Sotomayor said she "absolutely" would have approached the case differently in light of the new standard she said the Supreme Court laid out in its recent ruling.

Democrats devoted much of their time to lobbing friendly questions at Sotomayor, but they also tried probing the nominee's views on their supporters' top concerns, such as abortion rights - a staple of Supreme Court confirmation fights for decades.

Sotomayor, who hasn't ruled on the issue during her 17 years on the federal bench, shed little light on her view, confining her answers to legal-speak that never went beyond what the high court has said on the subject. She said the right to abortion is "the Supreme Court's settled interpretation of what the core holding is," as affirmed in a separate 1992 ruling.

Sotomayor's came close to saying the issue was settled law - but stopped short of that flat declaration. Under questioning by Sen. Herb Kohl, D-Wis., Sotomayor did say she considered the existence of a right to privacy - considered a key precursor of Roe - to be "settled law."

Under questioning by Graham, she also professed ignorance of cases in which the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund, a civil rights group she advised as a board member between 1980 and 1992, argued for taxpayer-funded abortions.

"I never reviewed those briefs," Sotomayor told Graham.

Leahy was first to ask about the "wise Latina" comment that has sparked so much controversy.

"I want to state upfront, unequivocally and without doubt: I do not believe that any racial, ethnic or gender group has an advantage in sound judging," Sotomayor said. "I do believe that every person has an equal opportunity to be a good and wise judge, regardless of their background or life experiences."

On gun rights, Republicans and Democrats alike questioned Sotomayor about her view of whether the Second Amendment protection against curbs on the right to keep and bear arms applied to states.

Her response showed Sotomayor - and the White House coaches who have helped prepare her for the hearings - is cognizant of the political potency of the issue.

"I understand how important the right to bear arms is to many, many Americans," Sotomayor told Leahy, adding that one of her godchildren is a member of the National Rifle Association and she has friends who hunt.

Obama named Sotomayor to replace Justice David Souter, who retired last month. While Souter was appointed by a Republican, President George H.W. Bush, he frequently sided with the court's liberal bloc on controversial issues such as abortion and affirmative action.

As a result, if confirmed, Sotomayor appears unlikely to alter the court's balance of power on those issues.
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Un. Freaking. Believable.

If I were a judge, and I said "A white man would make a wiser decision than a Latino woman." the whole nation would be up in arms, and I'd be kicked off the bench faster than you can say "white supremacist".

This woman says the opposite, and everyone shrugs. That's it.

Her decision in the case of those firefighters in Connecticut speaks volumes: Everyone took the same test. Not enough minorities passed the test, so no one should advance? Blatant racism. I'd tell the people who failed "Tough luck. Try harder next time." regardless of what color they were. Let's say the reverse happened; only minorities passed, with one or two whites. Would there have been any issue? I don't think so.

This is a lifetime appointment to one of the most powerful positions in the country, and so we're apparently going to be stuck with a blatantly racist woman on the panel for the next twenty years. Yay.

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I agree with you. She's a bullshit candidate.
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Unfortunately, her decision in Connecticut is probably less a factor of racism and more a factor of her regard for mob mentality: if only white men were allowed to advance - even if they happened to be the only ones who qualified - there would be a public uproar among the minority community. The facts of having a qualifiying exam, and letting the facts determine the outcome regardless of race, being the ultimate in non-bigotry is generally lost on the public at large.

That said, the fact that she considers public opinion as a dterminant in the application of law is its own problem...
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That's one way to look at it, and you might be right, but when added to the blatantly racist "Latina woman" statement, I don't think it's a coincidence.
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Come on, you know only white people can be racist.
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I used to joke about how white men are the most discriminated against group of people around... I dont joke about that anymore :(
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It's not racist if you slam white males! I'm with you Tsu, unfreakin' believable.
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Exactly. Hypocritical bullsh*t.

Even though I'm only half white, "reverse" discrimination (WTF does that mean anyways? It implies that all white people discriminate against minorities?) pisses me off. Here's an idea: why don't we just end discrimination altogether?
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Tsukiyumi wrote:Exactly. Hypocritical bullsh*t.

Even though I'm only half white, "reverse" discrimination (WTF does that mean anyways? It implies that all white people discriminate against minorities?) pisses me off. Here's an idea: why don't we just end discrimination altogether?
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Capt. Jethro wrote:Here is a racist story for ya. A muslim friend of mine went to pray at a mosque that happened to be part of the Nation of Islam. They wouldn't let him in because he looks white. Now here's the kicker, he's Lebanese.
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"A white man would make a wiser decision than a Latino woman."
But that's not comparable to what she said. What she said is this :

"I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life."

To me, she's saying that if a woman is wise and has rich experiences she would more likely make better conclusions than a man who hasn't had such experiences. The difference is in the experiences and wisdom, not the race.

That's a pretty thin basis on which to label a person as racist, IMO.
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Apparently, she's said a number of variations of that statement on different occasions.

I just think she's a poor candidate judging by her statements and decisions. This appointment is no minor issue; she will help interpret laws and set precedent for decades. I think there has to be a better candidate.
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I can't say I know much about her really, but from what little I've said she seems pretty sensible. Is there somebody better? Probably... isn't there always somebody better? Wait for a perfect candidate and you will never have on at all.
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GrahamKennedy wrote:I can't say I know much about her really, but from what little I've said she seems pretty sensible. Is there somebody better? Probably... isn't there always somebody better? Wait for a perfect candidate and you will never have on at all.
I would say that anyone who rises to her level, like most involved with DC politics, has some skeletons in their closets. However the fact that she did make the latino woman comment and the lack of response from those who gripe about racial comments proves the double standard that exists here in the good ol' U - S of A.
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As long as she's unbiased in her rulings, I don't particularly care what she thinks. If it starts to affect her decisions, however, then there's a problem.
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