Alternative Theories about Human Development

[Monroe]

I honestly thought about putting this in the Stargate forum lol.

Anyone read the 12th Planet or Forbidden Archeology? Some neat stuff in those books.

The mainstream alternative theory (Hah, as opposed to the less mainstream alternative theories) is the following:

Mankind developed into a technological Empire with building technology surpassing the ancient Romans, and with some technology surpassing what we have today.

Around the year 10,500 BCE an Empire stretching around the world collapsed as the ice caps melted and a great flood swept over the land. Civilization took thousands of years to rebound.

Some reasons for this theory off the top of my head is: The Pyramids, not just in Egypt but in South and Central America and in Asia all point to around 10,500 BC. Similiar architecture in the Indus River Valley civilization, Messoptania, Egypt, south America, and central America. They all used megolithic building blocks and L shaped corners. They also didn't use mortor but instead melted iron to hold blocks perfectly in shape. Latter Pyramids in Egypt were poorly constructed and the Egyptians themselves never claimed that they built the great pyramids. Story of the great flood appears in over 250 mythologies around the world. Story of Atlantis appears around the world (forget the exact count but they all have 'Atl' as a prefix for the long lost civilization).


The slightly less mainstream alternative theory is that there was alien involvement that they bred us from monkies which is why there is no missing link and we were bred to search for gold. There is some evidence of rockets and laser beams and X-Rays in ancient Summerian literature. Also the Summerians said there were 12 heavenly bodies. Sun, Moon, Eight planets, Pluto, and the homeworld of the guys the bible talk about that I forgot. That race of angels in Gensis.

There are also stories from the Indus River Valley of a strange sickness that causes fingernails and hair to fall out and people to die in ways very similiar to radiation sickness after the sky spit out fire or some such. The summerian wars between the gods almost always have dragon like creatures shooting fire at one another.

The discovery of the Cydonian Complex, which is probably just a group of unique looking rocks on Mars really did add some weight to this theory too.

Then even crazier gets into Scientology.

Now I have a tough time buying the alien one. If you look at literature alone from the dawn of civilization it seems like a given but there are plenty of facts that disprove that. I do think, though, that there is a chance we're not the first global human civilization, that others have come before us. Its kind of selfish to think we're the only ones.


What do you guys think? I don't hold much weight in these but they are interesting to learn about.

[Sionnach Glic]

I honestly thought about putting this in the Stargate forum lol.

I wouldn't have objected to that. All this is just as much fiction as Stargate.

Mankind developed into a technological Empire with building technology surpassing the ancient Romans, and with some technology surpassing what we have today.

Then why have archeological digs uncovered precisely zero skyscrapers, zero cars, zero assault rifles, zero aircraft, etc etc?

Around the year 10,500 BCE an Empire stretching around the world collapsed as the ice caps melted and a great flood swept over the land.

Firstly, a flood that covered all land is completely impossible.
Secondly, I'm no expert on geography or climates, but didn't the latest of such events occur several dozen milenia ago? And doesn't the Antarctic ice date back for hundreds of thousands of years?
And I guess this advanced civilization never heard of sea platforms? Or even space travel?

Some reasons for this theory off the top of my head is: The Pyramids, not just in Egypt but in South and Central America and in Asia all point to around 10,500 BC.

So? The builders of those constructions, while smart, were not on a par with us. And even if they were, where is all the evidence gone? Their pyraminds remained, so why didn't their cars?

Similiar architecture in the Indus River Valley civilization, Messoptania, Egypt, south America, and central America. They all used megolithic building blocks and L shaped corners. They also didn't use mortor but instead melted iron to hold blocks perfectly in shape.

Again, so what? Similar construction techniques =/= built by the same persons. There are only so many ways you can build a pyramid. Many neolithic structures look the same, even from different areas. This is becuase they didn't have the technology to build grand, sweeping constructions like we are today.
Have you ever been inside a pyramid, from either Egypt or South America? I have been in both, and I can assure you that there are many noticeable differences.

Latter Pyramids in Egypt were poorly constructed and the Egyptians themselves never claimed that they built the great pyramids.

Yes, later pyramids were poorly constructed, as they had lost the necesary arts. So what? This dosen't mean that they were constructed by a super advanced race.
And what do you mean 'they never claimed to have built them'? Do you mean modern Egyptians? (and they're right in saying they didn't build them) Or do you mean the ancient Egyptians said they didn't make them?

Story of the great flood appears in over 250 mythologies around the world.

You do realise that nearly every mythology stems from the same source, and that many of them simply copy one another? This is why many religions, even modern ones, are all incredibly similar.
And I'll point out again the physical imposibility of a world wide flood.

Atlantis appears around the world

Stories of a mythical lost city are hardly proof that it existed. Many mythologies share similar features, this does not change the fact that they are merely stories.
Many mythologies have stories of talking animals. Does this mean that animals once talked?

(forget the exact count but they all have 'Atl' as a prefix for the long lost civilization).

Source?

The slightly less mainstream alternative theory is that there was alien involvement that they bred us from monkies which is why there is no missing link and we were bred to search for gold.

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Seriously...what?
I'm not even going to bother replying to that...

There is some evidence of rockets and laser beams and X-Rays in ancient Summerian literature.

Such as?
And why is there no physical evidence for these weapons?
And where did this race go?
And why could they not simply use some sort of machine to search for gold? That would be far more efficient, and much quicker. And I'll point out that there are many evolutionary links between humans and primates, which easliy disproves the whole thing.

Also the Summerians said there were 12 heavenly bodies. Sun, Moon, Eight planets, Pluto, and the homeworld of the guys the bible talk about that I forgot. That race of angels in Gensis.

Well whoop-de-doo for the Summerians. What does this prove?

There are also stories from the Indus River Valley of a strange sickness that causes fingernails and hair to fall out and people to die in ways very similiar to radiation sickness after the sky spit out fire or some such.

Maybe a solar flare?
Or some sort of geologial cause?

And if we're supposed to be geneticaly engineered by little green prospecters, why do no stories mention them rather than their weapons or their radiation guns?

The summerian wars between the gods almost always have dragon like creatures shooting fire at one another.

So? Stories of fire-breathing dragons are hardly new. There were many such tales in the medievil period. Does this mean that Earth was under invasion again? And why would the group of guys who supposedly made us, leave us, come back and irradiate us, leave again, come back again, disapear and never return?

The discovery of the Cydonian Complex, which is probably just a group of unique looking rocks on Mars really did add some weight to this theory too.

You mean those rocks that look like half a face? That's hardly proof. In a galaxy with that many bilion stars, you're going to get odd coincidences all the time. And why would a group of aliens carve a face into a planet, anyway?

Then even crazier gets into Scientology.

I'm not even going there...

Now I have a tough time buying the alien one.

So does anyone with knowledge of such things.

If you look at literature alone from the dawn of civilization it seems like a given but there are plenty of facts that disprove that.

To disprove what? The aliens?

I do think, though, that there is a chance we're not the first global human civilization, that others have come before us.

Proof?

Its kind of selfish to think we're the only ones.

Not really. It's looking at the facts and making a conclusion based on evidence.

What do you guys think?

I think both of these theories are ridiculous. As someone who teaches history and biology (yes, I know its an odd mix, but they're my two major interests since I was a kid) I can safely say that there is zero evidence, barring freak coincidences, that any of this is real.

I don't hold much weight in these but they are interesting to learn about.

*shrug*
I don't particularly find them interesting. Though they are fun to shoot down.

[Captain Seafort]

So, Monroe, what you're basically saying is this:

There are those who believe that life here, began out there. Far across the universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. Who may have built the Great Pyramids, or the lost civilisations of Lemuria or Atlantis. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the heavens.

Cookie for the reference.

[DarkOmen]

*shrug*
I don't particularly find them interesting. Though they are fun to shoot down.

Those theories (WWI era airplane)

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Rochey's reply (M1 Gadfly anti-aircraft missile system)

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[Monroe]

So, Monroe, what you're basically saying is this:

There are those who believe that life here, began out there. Far across the universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. Who may have built the Great Pyramids, or the lost civilisations of Lemuria or Atlantis. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the heavens.

Cookie for the reference.

Basically yes. I'll get to Rockey's post, I need to dig up my brother's notes for the research paper he did on this. 100 pages for a highschool senior project. Way over achiever so I'm going to steal it

I just like to look at new ideas and learn about them. Sue me for being currious

[Aaron]

So, Monroe, what you're basically saying is this:

There are those who believe that life here, began out there. Far across the universe, with tribes of humans, who may have been the forefathers of the Egyptians, or the Toltecs, or the Mayans. Who may have built the Great Pyramids, or the lost civilisations of Lemuria or Atlantis. Some believe that there may yet be brothers of man, who even now fight to survive, somewhere beyond the heavens.

Cookie for the reference.

The opening narration from the original Battlestar Galactica.

[Captain Seafort]

The opening narration from the original Battlestar Galactica.

As narrated by Patrick Macnee.

[Monroe]

"Mankind developed into a technological Empire with building technology surpassing the ancient Romans, and with some technology surpassing what we have today."

Then why have archeological digs uncovered precisely zero skyscrapers, zero cars, zero assault rifles, zero aircraft, etc etc?

This is a big mystery. Reason I would never say the last world civilization was equal to us in every aspect. Hell the Romans had better concrete than we did up to just a few decades back. The Egyptians did have better cutting technology than we did up to until very rescent with the laser.

Khufu's tomb in the Great Pyramid is a good example, again from my brother's project cause I'm lazy:

"According to Egyptologists, it is the only thing left of Khufu's great inner tomb.12 It is made of Diorite, one of the hardest stones in nature. The Egyptians cut a perfect box slightly larger than a man from this stone.8 The sides are perfectly smooth, the corners are all ninety degrees, and the box gives a perfect A-438 pitch when stuck. The standard sound frequency in the Western world is A-440. Modern technology can only wish to cut stone so perfect. A noted drilling expert was brought in to examine the box on a recent study of the chamber. His conclusion is that the designers of this box, used tubular drills at a rate of 1/200 of an inch per second. Our modern diamond-headed drills will only go as fast as 1/5,000 of an inch per second in diorite before overheating or breaking.8 The Egyptians of the time had only chisels and bow saws.7 "

To me that says hey maybe this ancient race were equal to us in some reguards. And guess what? Khufu's tomb isn't the only thing made out of Diorite!

And don't get me started on the amazing mathematical principals of the Pyramids that only today are we able to fully understand.

"Around the year 10,500 BCE an Empire stretching around the world collapsed as the ice caps melted and a great flood swept over the land."

Firstly, a flood that covered all land is completely impossible.
Secondly, I'm no expert on geography or climates, but didn't the latest of such events occur several dozen milenia ago? And doesn't the Antarctic ice date back for hundreds of thousands of years?
And I guess this advanced civilization never heard of sea platforms? Or even space travel?

Last ice age ended at *gasp* around 10,500 BC.
The Egyptians claim that Atlantis sunk around 9,600 BC. The Mayan calender's first age ends at 11,502 BC and was the end of man's 'Golden Age'. At which time fire and water destroyed the first civilization.

Source: Hancock, Graham. Fingerprints of the Gods. New York: Three Rivers Press, 1995.

I've got a map I'd post if I had a hosting site that goes labels all the different stories about the flood. It goes from the artic circle in the Western Hemesphere to the tropics of south east asia.

to quote my bro:
"As the picture develops of an alien influenced human race, which reached across the world; we notice another important event of 13,000 years ago, the Great Flood. In more than 200 mythological and legendary stories we find reference to the Great Flood. Common themes among them are the saving of animals and a few humans; then repopulating the Earth after everyone is dead.25 The most widely accepted is the story of Noah from the Old Testament of the Bible. He and his boat are said to have landed on Mt. Ararat.1 In several other Myths, the survivors survive in a drum, or sunken ship."

This is a line from Ot-Danom area in Dutch Borneo

"A great deluge drowned many people. A few survived by escaping in boats to the mountain peak remaining above water. They dwelt there for three months until the flood subsided."25"

From the native people of Australia:

"Bunjil, the creator was angry with the people because of the evil they did, so he caused the ocean to flood by urinating into it. All people were destroyed except those whom Bunjil loved and fixed as stars in the sky, and a man and a woman who climbed a tall tree on a mountain, and from whom the present human race is descended."25

Incidently the number 25 is a source notation:
Apollodorus, Plato, Ovid, et al. Flood Stories From Around the World. (Online) available http://talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html, April 4th, 2000.

While I don't think the story of Baucis and Philemon are about the Great Flood it is a very popular Greek tail about the gods punishing people with the flood.

The popular Bible story is that it rained for 40 days and 40 nights. But the Bible talks about sea rushing in and breaking dykes. In the Australian stories it was salt water that rushed in.

"Some reasons for this theory off the top of my head is: The Pyramids, not just in Egypt but in South and Central America and in Asia all point to around 10,500 BC."

So? The builders of those constructions, while smart, were not on a par with us. And even if they were, where is all the evidence gone? Their pyraminds remained, so why didn't their cars?

"Similiar architecture in the Indus River Valley civilization, Messoptania, Egypt, south America, and central America. They all used megolithic building blocks and L shaped corners. They also didn't use mortor but instead melted iron to hold blocks perfectly in shape."

Again, so what? Similar construction techniques =/= built by the same persons. There are only so many ways you can build a pyramid. Many neolithic structures look the same, even from different areas. This is becuase they didn't have the technology to build grand, sweeping constructions like we are today.
Have you ever been inside a pyramid, from either Egypt or South America? I have been in both, and I can assure you that there are many noticeable differences.

You an architect? Or an archeologist? There noticable differences in how a New England home looks like compared to a a Victorian house?

"In the book The Orion Mystery by Robert Bauval, his search for ideas behind the significance and reason for the pyramids precision led him to mythology. Pharaohs ascended to Heaven where they belonged. As Bauval examined the King's Chamber of the Pyramid, he noticed a small shaft. He also noticed one in the Queens Chamber below.
He was told they were ventilation shafts when he inquired. Upon his own examination, he found they ran to certain interesting points in the night sky. At a point in the night the ventilation shaft in the King's chamber lined up with the constellation Osiris, now Orion. The Queen's ventilation shaft lined up with Sirius, a triple star, the brightest in the night sky and the most important star to ancient civilization. Sirius is also the main star of the ancient constellation, Isis.12
As Bauval explored the importance of these two constellations, a bird's eye view of the pyramids became important. As seen from above the three pyramids resembled the belt stars of Osiris. The position of the pyramids to the Nile River is also similar to Orion's belt and the Milky Way. When analyzed by a computer program the pyramids and the stars did not quit line up, in terms of orientation diagonally from each other.12
However over time the earth wobbles on its axis, creating our celestial year, and the exact orientation of the stars changes. This is called precession.4 The last time the stars of Osiris' belt were in exact alignment mirrored to the Pyramids was the Age of Leo. The Age of Leo is one of the twelve ages of the Celestial Year. The last time we saw the Age of Leo the Lion was circa 12,500 years ago.12"

Hey there's that pesty number again, 10,500 BCE.

I'll do a second post that goes into detail about similiarities. They won't be concrete proof but they do leave a margine of error in the standard theories.

"Latter Pyramids in Egypt were poorly constructed and the Egyptians themselves never claimed that they built the great pyramids."

Yes, later pyramids were poorly constructed, as they had lost the necesary arts. So what? This dosen't mean that they were constructed by a super advanced race.
And what do you mean 'they never claimed to have built them'? Do you mean modern Egyptians? (and they're right in saying they didn't build them) Or do you mean the ancient Egyptians said they didn't make them?

I mean the ancient Egyptians claimed they did not make them.
". If the Egyptians had built the pyramids they would have been covered with hieroglyphics, a trait common to every temple or obelisk they ever built. There are no hieroglyphics on the Pyramids, and no present tense reference to their construction. They were built by those kings as tombs, according to Egyptians historians of the next dynasty.6"
What you don't find talk of constructing or pre-construction of the hoover dam, the Alaskan Oil pipeline, the Panama Canal? Seems odd doesn't it?

"Historians wrote that Khufu owned and used the Pyramid. They give no detail as to how or why it was built."

Most of this info comes from:
Childress, David Hatcher. Lost Cities & Ancient Mysteries of Africa and Arabia.
Adventures Unlimited Press: Stelle, IL, 1993.

Bauval, Robert. The Orion Mystery. Heinemann Publishing: New York, NY, 1991.

Story of the great flood appears in over 250 mythologies around the world."

You do realise that nearly every mythology stems from the same source, and that many of them simply copy one another? This is why many religions, even modern ones, are all incredibly similar.
And I'll point out again the physical imposibility of a world wide flood.

This is true. But where did early man tend to live around? Starts with W and ends with ater. Usually man lived near the oceans and other water routes which, as we all know, is much easier to flood than say a mountain or a desert.

"Atlantis appears around the world"

Stories of a mythical lost city are hardly proof that it existed. Many mythologies share similar features, this does not change the fact that they are merely stories.
Many mythologies have stories of talking animals. Does this mean that animals once talked?

Hmm.. mythical cities.. like Troy? Or half the cities in the Old Testimate?

"(forget the exact count but they all have 'Atl' as a prefix for the long lost civilization)."

Source?

Ugh you know how annoying it is to do cntrl F on 'atl' in a 100 page paper about Atlantis?

Best I could find so far is:
Mysteries of Man. Videocassette. Broadcast by NBC. KSHB, Kansas City. Narrator Charlton Heston

I'll look some more later.

"The slightly less mainstream alternative theory is that there was alien involvement that they bred us from monkies which is why there is no missing link and we were bred to search for gold."

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Seriously...what?
I'm not even going to bother replying to that...

This gets into the 12th planet stuff which I don't believe in but basically there is, supposely a planet (which gravity says does exist) that orbits every 3,600 years around the solarsystem. On this proposed planet there is a race of Neflim that are closely related to humans that used humans to mine.
The theory goes on to say that the passing of this 12th planet (keeping in mind this is counting the sun and moon as planets as this is summerian legend) caused the great flood.

"There is some evidence of rockets and laser beams and X-Rays in ancient Summerian literature."
Such as?
And why is there no physical evidence for these weapons?
And where did this race go?
And why could they not simply use some sort of machine to search for gold? That would be far more efficient, and much quicker. And I'll point out that there are many evolutionary links between humans and primates, which easliy disproves the whole thing.

Like I said I didn't say I believe in this stuff, but if you look at -just- the literature there is a lot of evidence. I'll go into detail on this in a future post.

"Also the Summerians said there were 12 heavenly bodies. Sun, Moon, Eight planets, Pluto, and the homeworld of the guys the bible talk about that I forgot. That race of angels in Gensis."
Well whoop-de-doo for the Summerians. What does this prove?

Okay, look into the night sky, tell me how many planets you see.

"The Sumerians also knew planets had an elliptical orbit.1 We discovered this after Johannes Kepler presented the idea in the mid 1600's.4"

"The planets out to Saturn are visible on clear nights. The Sumerians also could have seen the same orb about 3800 BC. They recognized a tenth, (which they called the twelfth) within their order of twelve celestial beings. "

Hey the Sumerians had telescopes. Whoo-de-doo right? Afterall all emerging civilizations have telescopes.

"There are also stories from the Indus River Valley of a strange sickness that causes fingernails and hair to fall out and people to die in ways very similiar to radiation sickness after the sky spit out fire or some such."

Maybe a solar flare?
Or some sort of geologial cause?

And if we're supposed to be geneticaly engineered by little green prospecters, why do no stories mention them rather than their weapons or their radiation guns?

That's a descent theory. Solar flare. Far as what them, which I looked up, the Neflim is what the Bible calls -them-. Just look at mythology. How many ancient mythologies talk about gods that lust over gold and gems in the underworld and where man can expect to spend eternity. Certainly not proof but again, there is evidence.

"The summerian wars between the gods almost always have dragon like creatures shooting fire at one another."
So? Stories of fire-breathing dragons are hardly new. There were many such tales in the medievil period. Does this mean that Earth was under invasion again? And why would the group of guys who supposedly made us, leave us, come back and irradiate us, leave again, come back again, disapear and never return?

Well the theory is that the gods had a war over the Earth and decided in the end to setup religion to control the population and occationally move mankind in the right direction. Look at the story of Saint Germain. Jesus is another candidate. Far fetched? Yes, but it is kinda cool to think about.

"The discovery of the Cydonian Complex, which is probably just a group of unique looking rocks on Mars really did add some weight to this theory too."
You mean those rocks that look like half a face? That's hardly proof. In a galaxy with that many bilion stars, you're going to get odd coincidences all the time. And why would a group of aliens carve a face into a planet, anyway?

There are also 'pyramids' there that have mathematical properties similiar to the Giza Complex. You can find that stuff on crazy alien sites. Or I may just post it later on.

Not really. It's looking at the facts and making a conclusion based on evidence.

There's evidence to the contrary too. Read Forbidden Archeology. Its really really really strange. Like pottery 3 million years old, a human skeleton found 600,000,000 years old. Very odd stuff. I think we've all heard of the smooth balls 3.8 billion years old.

I think both of these theories are ridiculous. As someone who teaches history and biology (yes, I know its an odd mix, but they're my two major interests since I was a kid) I can safely say that there is zero evidence, barring freak coincidences, that any of this is real.

Well as someone who's studying to be able to teach, and has done some independent history research I'd like to keep these things in the back of my mind to not become close minded. Afterall the Theory of Gravity is incomplete couldn't an even less reliable theory need revisions?

*shrug*
I don't particularly find them interesting. Though they are fun to shoot down.

I don't know about shooting them down. You haven't offered anything counter so far and I offered evidence for just about everything you asked. I'll get back to you on that -Atl- may be in another essay I have on my computer.

And btw, when did the Agricultural Revolution start? 10,500 BCE give or take. Interesting era.

[Aaron]

There's a difference between maintaining an open mind and giving credence to crack-pottery. Guess which one your doing.

[Monroe]

There's a difference between maintaining an open mind and giving credence to crack-pottery. Guess which one your doing.

So you look at the hundreds of books written on the subject by many experts and don't see any doubt that what was taught to you growing up is the correct answer? Now that's close minded dogma.

If I only had a few sources or only had internet ones then yeah it would just be goofy theories. But I think there's enough evidence for this stuff to be mentioned in schools. Well.. maybe not the alien one, but the other theory to be mentioned in schools, not taught, but pointed out there are other theories about this.

[Aaron]

So you look at the hundreds of books written on the subject by many experts and don't see any doubt that what was taught to you growing up is the correct answer? Now that's close minded dogma.

If I only had a few sources or only had internet ones then yeah it would just be goofy theories. But I think there's enough evidence for this stuff to be mentioned in schools. Well.. maybe not the alien one, but the other theory to be mentioned in schools, not taught, but pointed out there are other theories about this.

You give credence to a world wide flood, need I say more?

[Monroe]

Its actually a mainstream viewpoint that the world had a floor when the ice melted from the last ice age. I never said it covered the world in water, I said there were accounts of a lot of water and flooding. When your whole world is only 25 miles from where you're born heavy flooding can seem like the entire world going underwater.

Its pretty standard that the Great Flood happened around 12,000 years ago.

[Mikey]

OK -

The Egyptian pyraminds are NOT that old.

Comparative mythology, as well as linguistics and other anthropological priniciples, would lead one to believe that common threads appear in all different aspects of Indo-Aryan civilizations BECAUSE they are all aspects of Indo-Aryan civilizations... no need to go looking for some unfounded idea of a prehistoric uber-race.

Sure, many mythologies contain "great flood a/o world destruction/renewal" stories. Which mythologies? Hindu, ancient Greek, Roman, Teutonic, Scandinavian, and modern Judeo-Christian. Interestingly enough, these are ALL parts of the same original Indo-Aryan linguistic group! You will find the same thing with Atlantis stories (which are probably based on the disappearance of a small island near Crete) etc.

In addition, since actual civilization/city-building became the norm, people travelled - and talked. That is why Christmas is celebrated on Dec. 25th, which was originally a holy day in an offshoot of Zoroastriansim called Mithraism - incidentally, Mithraism's height of popularity was at the time that Christianity was gaining legs in Rome. That is why modern Christianity holds the idea of the Trinity - an idea gotten from the Osiris cult, which also was popular in Rome in the first century. That is why parts of the Torah, esp. parts of Leviticus, sound alien to our ears - because they were based on civilizations local to early Judaism, like Asshur, the Babylonians, the Chaldeans...

What I'm trying to say, for example, is that the Egyptians didn't invent the chariot. But it didn't take a world-wide alleged super-race to spread the word of it; all the Egyptians needed was one successful Hyskos invasion to convince them to adopt it.

[Mikey]

BTW, the original Polynesian people of Hawai'i believed that the island of Maui was formed when the demigod Maui fished it from the sea. Should we assume, then, that our current theories of volcanic island-building are invalid?

[Monroe]

Comparative mythology, as well as linguistics and other anthropological priniciples, would lead one to believe that common threads appear in all different aspects of Indo-Aryan civilizations BECAUSE they are all aspects of Indo-Aryan civilizations... no need to go looking for some unfounded idea of a prehistoric uber-race.

Sure, many mythologies contain "great flood a/o world destruction/renewal" stories. Which mythologies? Hindu, ancient Greek, Roman, Teutonic, Scandinavian, and modern Judeo-Christian. Interestingly enough, these are ALL parts of the same original Indo-Aryan linguistic group! You will find the same thing with Atlantis stories (which are probably based on the disappearance of a small island near Crete) etc.

While I believe with pretty much all you've said it doesn't explain how those same stories migraded across to the New World. Or hell, the white indians in south america. But that's getting into Mormon stuff

There's a lot of oddities in the world that the standard theory doesn't explain all of. I'm not saying we should believe in everything that these alternative theories point out but they do cover some holes that the standard theories leave, just like vice versa. I still think its important to have a basic understanding of the alternative one.