Pfft. details, details...Tsukiyumi wrote:Because if they tripped and ripped the suit, they'd die?Captain Picard's Hair wrote:And, the only thing I really have to add here: a real race on the moon would be cool. Why didn't Buzz Aldrin and Niel Armstrong ever have a race from the lander to some big rock?
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What good is a contest without high stakes?
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Hell before the economy tanked I was in favor of NASA being privatised.
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I'd say that a moon race would let us end up on the moon again. Due to th explicit challlenge set to all space agencies they REALLY have something to focus their research on. that research may help us a bit further in getting to mars as well as RL benefits. I can see that things like isolation and propulsion techniques will greatly improve by this.
The best may be if we'd en up with 2 or 3 camps of space agencies and coutries bound together to get to the moon. Because competition usually leads to breakthroughs which wouldn't come about or would simply never be if said race did not take place.
However, wether or not these organisations need to be private or part of government programmes, I'd say both. It may encourage competition even amongst companies and thus, the prestige to be on the moon second (historically seen) is even higher.
Competition for the competition is not my ideal. I want people to achieve a certain goal, and I think that may even be easier if there are competitors, because then there is mnore drive to achieve that goal.
The best may be if we'd en up with 2 or 3 camps of space agencies and coutries bound together to get to the moon. Because competition usually leads to breakthroughs which wouldn't come about or would simply never be if said race did not take place.
However, wether or not these organisations need to be private or part of government programmes, I'd say both. It may encourage competition even amongst companies and thus, the prestige to be on the moon second (historically seen) is even higher.
Competition for the competition is not my ideal. I want people to achieve a certain goal, and I think that may even be easier if there are competitors, because then there is mnore drive to achieve that goal.
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To elaborate on an excellent point by Shran:
Not only is there more drive to acheive a goal when direct competition is present; but there is a sense of urgency to accomplish the goal not only first, but in a better, more efficient, more cost-effective, and more accesible way.
Not only is there more drive to acheive a goal when direct competition is present; but there is a sense of urgency to accomplish the goal not only first, but in a better, more efficient, more cost-effective, and more accesible way.
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In my humble 'redeck' opinion 8) there should have already been a base on the moon set up jointly by participating countries as well as more trips to Mars. Perhaps even a manned mission there should be more closer to reality.
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According to ST history, we're supposed to be suffering through the aftermath of the Eugenics Wars ( WW3) right about nowCapt. Jethro wrote:In my humble 'redeck' opinion 8) there should have already been a base on the moon set up jointly by participating countries as well as more trips to Mars. Perhaps even a manned mission there should be more closer to reality.
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Of course (or, of curse) if the recession gets as bad as it might in the worst case scenario, things might feel that bad anyway... though we "should" be sending DY class ships with cryogenically frozen people into space by now according to Trek. Would be nice to get rid of some people though. Who gets iced first?
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I vote blackstarCaptain Picard's Hair wrote:Who gets iced first?
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I'd say that Madoff guy who swindled $50 billion from people, but only as long as the course was set for the sun.Captain Picard's Hair wrote:...Would be nice to get rid of some people though. Who gets iced first?
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Eugenic wars happened before WWIII. And didn't happen until sometime post 2030 or so. Least according to the new lore ENT established.
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Very well then: according to some versions of some Trek histories, something happened at this time which was bad. In fact, the details of The Trek history of Man are irrelevant, since everything that ever happened before Zephram Cochrane did <something> and <some doohicky to do with first contact> happened (depending on which version of canon you refer to, of course) was bad, until <> happened at <> time, at which point the magic switch was flipped and Man became good.
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you lost me at Zephram Cochrane
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i think the main point would be that future men would look back at our history as not important, and only look at the turning point of Zephram.
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what about the temporal element...I saw EE in there.
It's going to suck when time travel is avalable, b/c history classes sease to exist. they can't test you, because if you get a question wrong, you can go back in time and change history so your right. Or go back to the test and change your answer to the right one.
It's going to suck when time travel is avalable, b/c history classes sease to exist. they can't test you, because if you get a question wrong, you can go back in time and change history so your right. Or go back to the test and change your answer to the right one.
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I don't think time travel will be available to everyone. Though I did start a thread about that once in the ENT forum because one of the characters from the far future said they learned how to create a time traveling device in school.Lt. Staplic wrote:what about the temporal element...I saw EE in there.
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