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He Got What He Deserved’: Texas Dad Beats His Daughter’s Molester to Death
A Texas father beat a man to death after catching him molesting his 4-year-old daughter in a horse barn, The Houston Chronicle reports. The incident happened Saturday evening near Shiner, Texas.Lavaca County Sheriff Micah Harmon identified the deceased as a 47-year-old man from Gonzales, Texas. He was reported dead at the scene, however, his name will not be released until his next of kin is notified.
Harmon said the father and daughter were with several other people at the family’s barn to groom and tend to the horses, according to The Chronicle. The alleged attacker was reportedly an acquaintance of the father.

The sound of the little girl’s screams were later heard coming from the barn and instinctually, the father rushed to his daughter’s aide. After reaching the barn, he found a man sexually assaulting his daughter – undoubtedly a dad’s worst nightmare.

After pulling the attacker off of her, the father repeatedly struck the man in the head.

The young girl was taken to DeTar hospital in Victoria where doctors ran tests to determine whether sexual assault had occurred, The Houston Chronicle reports. She was eventually released.

In the aftermath, nearby residents are having a hard time feeling any sympathy for the alleged child molester.

“He got what he deserved, big time,” Sonny Jaehne, a Shiner resident, told the Victoria Advocate.

Another Shiner resident Mark Harabis said he agreed with the father’s action “totally.”

“I would probably do worse,” he said. “The family will have to deal with that the rest of their lives, no matter what happens to the father. Even if they let him go, he and his child will have to deal with that the rest of their lives.”

Further, Howard Gloor, the owner of Howard’s convenient store, a popular Shiner hangout spot, told The Advocate that the whole town had pretty much come to a “consensus” about the incident.

“Everybody wants to know who it is,” Gloor said. “Everybody’s very curious about it. A lot of people have said that he got what he had coming to him. That’s been the consensus. They’ve been supportive of doing what needed to be done to take care of the problem.”

So far, no arrests have been made. A grand jury will likely decide whether any charges will be brought against the father, whose identity has not been released in an attempt to protect the 4-year-old girl.

An autopsy on the alleged attacker is expected to be performed by the Travis County Medical Examiner’s Office to establish the cause of death.
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I am having a hard time seeing anything wrong here...
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Justified old west justice taking place in Texas. The father should get a medal.
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What's nice to see is both the fact that the father has said that he didn't want anyone to die and had no intention of killing the attacker; and that the involved prosecutor has said that there's a good chance that no charges will be filed against the father, considering it a case of third-person defense. There's a lot of things about which to poke fun at Texas, but this is a damned good attitude.
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Temporary insanity would be the defense. Pure driven rage against the molester. Doubtful any charges if would stand in court anyway.
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McAvoy wrote:Temporary insanity would be the defense. Pure driven rage against the molester. Doubtful any charges if would stand in court anyway.
That's not a defense - for good or ill, legal insanity isn't the same as clinical insanity. For legal defensive purposes, "insanity" merely means the inability to distinguish right from wrong. Charles Manson, for example, is a textbook case of a form of clinical insanity. He was in no way able to use an insanity defense, though, because his condition doesn't inhibit his ability to tell right from wrong.

In this Texan case, it's got nothing to do with an ability for this guy to defend himself in court - it's that he was within his rights to defend his daughter, especially considering that he didn't stop to plan a revenge-like scheme or obtain a weapon.

*EDIT* BTW, it might be telling that the molester's autopsy results will reportedly be delayed because the coroner found reason to run toxicology tests. If he died because of a chemical impairment that altered his resistance to the father's blows, then there isn't even a snowball's chance of the father being indicted.
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Usually, I find the gung ho attitude to the law over there a little bit uncomfortable; Really really struggling to find something wrong with this.
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Reliant121 wrote:Usually, I find the gung ho attitude to the law over there a little bit uncomfortable; Really really struggling to find something wrong with this.
You're struggling because this isn't an example of the attitude about which you speak. The father wasn't trying to kill the attacker, he was just trying to defend his daughter in a justifiable - and justified - manner.
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Mikey wrote:The father wasn't trying to kill the attacker, he was just trying to defend his daughter in a justifiable - and justified - manner.
No, he wasn't:
After pulling the attacker off of her, the father repeatedly struck the man in the head.
Understandable, yes. A natural reaction, yes. Thoroughly deserved, yes. Justifiable? No.
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After pulling the attacker off of her, the father repeatedly struck the man in the head.
The article I had read about the incident reported the sequence of events somewhat differently. In any event, as I said - the father wasn't attacking anyone with the intent to kill. An attempt to incapacitate the man who was molesting his daughter is certainly justifiable... even in Texas, most folks who aren't LE officers don't walk around with handcuffs in their pockets.

*EDIT* In addition, an essay to beat the molester down hard may have had another reason. As I said, the coroner found good reason to order toxicology tests. If the molester was under the influence of some branch of the amphetamine family tree, or MDMA, or some opiate, then he likely couldn't be subdued just by grappling him.
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Mikey wrote:If the molester was under the influence of some branch of the amphetamine family tree, or MDMA, or some opiate, then he likely couldn't be subdued just by grappling him.
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Yeah... I'm hoping he gets off, too. I don't have kids, and I can't imagine his feelings and just... wow.
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RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:No charges.
Awesome, and the quotes from the 911 call even show more than before that the father's intention was never to kill anyone.
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Sounds like a rather simple deal of Justice, rare now adays... so its nice to see it in action. Nice to see the courts protecting the victims in this too.
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Deepcrush wrote:Sounds like a rather simple deal of Justice, rare now adays... so its nice to see it in action. Nice to see the courts protecting the victims in this too.
I'm not sure that the problem is the courts - the problem is that Texas is one of less than 50 states that allows for third-party defense.
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