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Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-piracy

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:54 pm
by Mikey
The story. Apparently, the Somalis thought that executing hostages would somehow alleviate the U.S. response to piracy. Personally, I'd always thought that shooting a civilian third party would help defend against military action. :?

Yes, that was sarcastic.

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:49 pm
by Tsukiyumi
"The killing of those four Americans and our comrades is a fair game that has started. Everybody will react if his life is in danger. We should not agree to be killed and let the hostages be freed," a pirate called Hussein told Reuters from Hobyo, another Somali coastal pirate haven.
Again with this sh*t. "Hey, no fair shooting at us when we take people hostage and threaten their lives! That's not how to play the game!"

Now that they've escalated this, I can't wait to see the feeble response from the UN and the US.

"Please stop doing this."

"No!"

"Well, we've done all we can."

:roll:

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 4:52 pm
by Mikey
What I don't get is why they executed their only possible asset.

"Hey, Hussein! Those American soldiers are going to kill us! Should we shoot back?"
"No! Kill the people who are tied up in the hold and who currently pose no threat to us whatsoever! That'll save us!"

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:05 pm
by stitch626
So, in effect, they have removed the only thing preventing them from being bombed (other than hesitation on the part of the other militarys for no reason).

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 5:31 pm
by Mikey
Exactly what I meant when I said that they executed their only asset.

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:05 pm
by Tsukiyumi
No one ever said these asshats have any common sense.

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:20 pm
by Lighthawk
Seeing as they seem to believe they have a right to kidnap people and demand money for them, and whine about getting killed when they do so, I'd say common sense has never been part of their thinking.

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 6:31 pm
by Mikey
One would think that knowing how to use hostages would be a prerequisite for someone in the hostage-taking business. I guess not.

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 7:56 pm
by Tyyr
I'm completely at a loss. They were being followed, but the US forces were negotiating with them. Then they just out of the blue kill all four hostages. So US Spec Ops storms the boat, kills two of them, and captures the other 17. What possible reason could there be for killing all your leverage? The only thing I can figure is that someone tried to make a break for it and one of the pirates over-reacted.

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:08 pm
by Mikey
Make a break for it? They were on a friggin' boat. Even the Somali equivalent of Homer and Jethro would have had the jolly boats and lifeboats covered.

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:10 pm
by Captain Seafort
Tyyr wrote:I'm completely at a loss. They were being followed, but the US forces were negotiating with them. Then they just out of the blue kill all four hostages. So US Spec Ops storms the boat, kills two of them, and captures the other 17. What possible reason could there be for killing all your leverage? The only thing I can figure is that someone tried to make a break for it and one of the pirates over-reacted.
It's especially unusual given that up till now hostages have generally been treated reasonably well. Not surprising, given that your average Somali pirate is a sensible businessman - they're out for ransoms, not any ideological bullshit.

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:31 pm
by Mikey
That's my question - by executing the hostages, they eliminated both any advantage they might have had when dealing with U.S. forces and their hope of a payday.

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:32 pm
by Deepcrush
Well, when things get crazy then its time for a crazy response. Have a few destroyers skirt the coast and level every boat/boat house or warehouse within shore view.

After that, ask them if they plan on killing anymore people. If they say yes, repeat process by half mile inland each time.

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:39 pm
by Captain Seafort
Deepcrush wrote:Well, when things get crazy then its time for a crazy response. Have a few destroyers skirt the coast and level every boat/boat house or warehouse within shore view.
You mean the ones where they're holding their hostages? Very clever Deep. :roll:

Re: Somali pirates: executing hostages = response to anti-pi

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:40 pm
by Deepcrush
As a matter of fact... YES.