4Chan prevents potential shooting

[Nickswitz]

4Chan prevents potential shooting

This wins my respect for the community of 4Chan, mostly known as trolls, who actually did the right thing.

[Griffin]

This wins my respect for the community of 4Chan,

Nothing, will ever do that for me, nor should it for anybody else.

[Mark]

I have no idea what a 4chan is supposed to be.

[Nickswitz]

This wins my respect for the community of 4Chan,

Nothing, will ever do that for me, nor should it for anybody else.

Touche, gains some more than I previously had.
And Mark, it's basically an image bulletin, people post pictures and talk about troll about them.

[Lighthawk]

I have no idea what a 4chan is supposed to be.

It's an imageboard. In short, from TVtropes...

The also-aforementioned 4chan, which hosts boards dedicated to just about every generalized subject you can think of (and a few specialized subjects, as well), is home to the self-proclaimed "shithole of the Internet" (the Random board, aka /b/), and is the starting point for about half the memes in the various subpages of the Memetic Mutation article. Humorously enough, 4chan was created by a bunch of regulars from Something Awful's anime subforum, a fact that is best left unmentioned on both sites. Has its infamous, luckless spin-off, 7chan, Which has its own spin-off, 99chan. The users consider them 'better' than 7chan - and sometimes even 4chan.

The long version

[Tyyr]

This is actually par for the course for 4Chan. They've forked over quite a few people to the authorities and usually it turns out for very good reason. From animal abusers to potential school shooters many people have misjudged 4Chan, specifically /b/. Yeah, they're assholes, they can make fun of any tragedy ever, and by the way tits or gtfo, but when shit can potentially get real they are very much on the side of law and order.

Honestly, /b/ is the internet and humanity at its most pure.

[Mikey]

Honestly, /b/ is the internet and humanity at its most pure.

That is both true, occassionally uplifting (as in the preceding story,) and generally miserably depressing.

[Captain Seafort]

but when s**t can potentially get real they are very much on the side of law and order.

Oh yeah? Then where exactly, pray tell, did Anonymous spring from?

[stitch626]

but when s**t can potentially get real they are very much on the side of law and order.

Oh yeah? Then where exactly, pray tell, did Anonymous spring from?

Anonymous did not come from 4Chan (or any of the Chans). It came form a group of hackers who think that they can rule the world through interference.

[Captain Seafort]

Telegraph

The "Anonymous" internet hacking group, who have launched a series of cyber attacks on websites perceived to be enemies of WikiLeaks, are closely linked to the notorious mischief-making website 4chan.org.

Independent

One anonymous "hactivist" wrote on the forum 4chan: "The longer we fire MasterCard, the better." Another urged: "Keep attacking, let's make it a war, not a battle like what usually happens."

Grauniad

Anonymous was born out of the influential internet messageboard 4chan

You were saying?

[stitch626]

Sorry, but none of those showed anything proving that Anonymous came from 4Chan. They just stated "there was a connection" without saying what that connection was.

Other than the one... and big deal, a few users on 4Chan show evidence of being Anonymous hackers, out of more than a million.
Anonymous "members" have also posted on Facebook, Twitter, EvE Online forums, and many other social locations on the web.

As Anonymous is not a single group, just a bunch of unrelated people with the same goal, tracing them to one single location is impossible, as such a location cannot exist.

[Captain Seafort]

Sorry, but none of those showed anything proving that Anonymous came from 4Chan. They just stated "there was a connection" without saying what that connection was.

*sigh*

Grauniad

Anonymous was born out of the influential internet messageboard 4chan

Other than the one... and big deal, a few users on 4Chan show evidence of being Anonymous hackers, out of more than a million.

On it's own, true, but combined with the rest of the evidence it's a lot more damning.

As Anonymous is not a single group, just a bunch of unrelated people with the same goal, tracing them to one single location is impossible, as such a location cannot exist.

On the contrary, the very fact that they're using an umbrella name demonstrates that these individuals not only have the same goal, but a degree of centralised command and control, even if said C2 is fairly loose by the standards of most criminal or terrorist organisations.

[stitch626]

Anonymous was born out of the influential internet messageboard 4chan

And as I said, it just states it, not saying where it got the information.

Thats no different than quoting wiki.


Other than a few people/reporting sites saying it, there is no evidence to suggest that it originated on 4Chan.

On the contrary, the very fact that they're using an umbrella name demonstrates that these individuals not only have the same goal, but a degree of centralised command and control, even if said C2 is fairly loose by the standards of most criminal or terrorist organisations.

Two of the links you provided said that these folks have no leader (true) and are organized locally (haven't talked to any of them personally).

[Captain Seafort]

And as I said, it just states it, not saying where it got the information.

Thats no different than quoting wiki.

Are you making a concious effort to be fucking stupid, or are you this thick naturally? I'm quoting broadsheets, you're declaring something to be true on the basis of your say-so. If you wish to argue that I'm wrong, provide evidence.

Two of the links you provided said that these folks have no leader (true) and are organized locally (haven't talked to any of them personally).

And? I acknowledged that C2 was pretty loose, but that's a very long way from any claim that it effectively doesn't exist.

[Tsukiyumi]

Are you making a concious effort to be f***ing stupid, or are you this thick naturally? I'm quoting broadsheets, you're declaring something to be true on the basis of your say-so. If you wish to argue that I'm wrong, provide evidence.

Hold on.

You've said before, the burden of proof is on the person making the positive assertion (in this case, that Anonymous is "born out of the influential internet messageboard 4chan"). Your article lists no sources for this assertion, so is not supporting evidence on it's own.

You can't ask him to "prove you wrong" when you haven't provided any solid proof of your own beyond a few news articles that don't name the sources of their own assertions.

There is no evidence you have linked to that proves that Anonymous "sprung from" 4chan.