Thank god. Maybe we'll get some results now.N.Y. state lawmaker taps campaign funds to spread message
By JENNIFER PELTZ
updated 5:29 a.m. HT, Thurs., April 1, 2010
NEW YORK - Saying low-slung pants give their wearers a bad image, a state lawmaker is making the point with some images of his own.
Brooklyn residents awoke Thursday to the sight of two "Stop the Sag" billboards - and more were on the way, organizers said. The signs show two men in jeans low enough to display their underwear. The billboards were bankrolled by state Sen. Eric Adams, who also made an online video to send his message: "You can raise your level of respect if you raise your pants."
Adams is the latest in a series of politicians and other public figures to lambaste the slack-slacks style that has been popular in some circles since the 1990s and amplified by rappers and other avatars of urban fashion.
The dropped-trousers trend has been debated in TV shows, city councils, school boards, state legislatures and courtrooms and even decried in song: Larry Platt became an Internet sensation earlier this year after he sang his original song "Pants on the Ground" during an "American Idol" audition.
Bill Cosby caused a stir by blasting baggy pants, alongside other things he considered missteps by black youths, at an NAACP event in 2004. President Barack Obama, as a candidate, came out against low-sitting trousers in 2008.
"Some people might not want to see your underwear. I'm one of them," Obama told MTV News.
Dallas officials embarked on a "Pull Your Pants Up" billboard campaign in 2007. Some schools have tightened dress codes to get students to tighten their belts. Last summer, a St. Petersburg, Fla., high school principal resorted to ordering thousands of plastic zip ties to help students hitch up their pants.
Fuel for troubling stereotypes
Some communities have tried outlawing saggy slacks, though such regulations have often faced questions about their legality.
Yet the trend has hung around. Adams decided he had enough after spotting a subway rider in particularly low-riding pair of pants a couple of months ago.
"Everyone on the train was looking at him and shaking their heads. And no one said anything to correct it," Adams said in a telephone interview this week.
So Adams, a black retired police captain first elected in 2006, tapped his campaign coffers for $2,000 to put up the billboards. He elaborated in his YouTube video, which juxtaposes images of minstrelsy and other racial caricatures with shots of sagging pants - all fuel for troubling stereotypes, in Adams' view.
Adapted from prison uniforms
The low-slung trousers trend is adapted from the unbelted and sometimes oversized look of prison uniforms, according to Mark-Evan Blackman, who heads the menswear department at New York's Fashion Institute of Technology.
Initially seen as invoking street credibility, the style has spread from inner cities to suburban malls - and into Blackman's classrooms, where he frequently finds himself telling students to hike up their trousers.
So does Tracey L. Collins, a former school principal who runs Fully Persuaded for Children and Families Inc. The New York-based organization aims to foster responsible decision-making and other social skills.
The swooning-slacks look "is one of those issues that impact young people greatly. They walk into classrooms, they walk into schools ... and people make an assessment about their appearance," said Collins, whose group is working with Adams on his "Stop the Sag" effort.
Communities from Lynwood, Ill., to Lafourche Parish, La., have passed laws imposing fines for too-low trousers.
Aiming to educate, not legislate
Lawmakers in some places have considered such measures but rejected or dropped them amid legal questions. A plan to fine people for pants that exposed their underwear stalled in the Tennessee General Assembly last year, after the state's attorney general said it was "unconstitutionally vague." A Florida judge ruled a similar city law unconstitutional in 2008 after a 17-year-old in Riviera Beach spent a night in jail after being accused of having his underwear exposed.
Adams says he doesn't aim to legislate, just educate.
"I don't want to criminalize young people being young people," he said. "I'm trying to make sure we stand up and correct the behavior."
Still, some of the style's partisans aren't sure it merits a politician's attention.
"I think there's other things going on besides someone's pants being low," said James Scott, 27, of Brooklyn, his jeans sitting jauntily low on his hips
Stop the Sag’ billboards battle low-slung pants
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Re: Stop the Sag’ billboards battle low-slung pants
Hmmm somehow I don't think a billboard put up by The Man is going to take out the fashion trend. Though being a fashion thing one can hope it'll just blow over one of these days.
Plus, who needs to be respectable when you can get cash and now health care off the government? (Sorry to bring that up, couldn't resist)
Plus, who needs to be respectable when you can get cash and now health care off the government? (Sorry to bring that up, couldn't resist)
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Hmm. There really is a NY State Sen. Eric Adams from Brooklyn, so I guess it's not an April Fool's Day joke. Much as I hate the trend, is this really the most troubling thing that Adam's consituency has to worry about?
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Well, the people wearing the pants probably are actually. I don't know how much encouraging some of them to put on a belt would really help, but I suppose it couldn't hurt.Mikey wrote:Hmm. There really is a NY State Sen. Eric Adams from Brooklyn, so I guess it's not an April Fool's Day joke. Much as I hate the trend, is this really the most troubling thing that Adam's consituency has to worry about?
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Does he actually think anyone's going to pay the slightest bit of attention to this? Most of the people walking around with their trousers falling down are the very people who want to oppose "The Man".
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I suggest the money would be better spent on billboards encouraging the greater use of yoga pants.
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Some are; some are just kids following a stupid trend. In either case, the style is the symptom, not the disease. In other words; if some of the sag-wearers are problems to the community, getting them to wear their pants correctly would cause them to... still be problems to the community, just better-dressed ones.sunnyside wrote:Well, the people wearing the pants probably are actually.
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I just inform kids what the different pant styles mean and normally they jump out of their seats to pull them up. I don't really see whats so tough about this.
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It's funny to see how many kids adopt these styles (sagging their pants, one or two legs rolled up, etc.) with no idea of what they mean.Deepcrush wrote:I just inform kids what the different pant styles mean and normally they jump out of their seats to pull them up. I don't really see whats so tough about this.
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What do the pant legs rolled up mean... ![Confused :?](./images/smilies/icon_confused.gif)
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Yeah, I take a rather rude enjoyment from laughing at them.
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What's one trouser leg rolled up signify?Mikey wrote:It's funny to see how many kids adopt these styles (sagging their pants, one or two legs rolled up, etc.) with no idea of what they mean.Deepcrush wrote:I just inform kids what the different pant styles mean and normally they jump out of their seats to pull them up. I don't really see whats so tough about this.
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Here it usually means their riding a bike and don't want it tangled in the chain (right leg).
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Simple. All you need to do is start putting random guys into TV shows. Each of them should have the low slung pants thing... and each of them should be an incredibly effeminate gay man. Have people say things like "Hoo boy, that man's so queer his pants are falling down." Just be spectacularly obvious about the fact that low pants = gay, constantly.
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