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SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:08 pm
by Tyyr

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:09 pm
by Lighthawk
Tyyr wrote:Enjoy
...I can't. Damn work filters!

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:23 pm
by Tyyr
"Richard Nixon, who most of you know as the villain in Futurama."

"However this can be forgiven because Valeris is hot."

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:14 am
by kostmayer
Tyyr wrote:"However this can be forgiven because Valeris is hot."
So was Saavik!

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:05 am
by Deepcrush
Is it me or did he seem less committed to this review then he does with most?

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 5:10 am
by Tyyr
I can agree with that. Given how in depth his look at Wrath of Khan was this does come off as very shallow.

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 12:19 pm
by Nickswitz
Yeah, it does seem like he was very uninterested in this review.

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 2:31 pm
by stitch626
Maybe he was tired when he recorded it. Or he had a bad week.

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:07 pm
by Deepcrush
Oh I'm sure there was something to it. It could also have been that he was lacking points to make on it. STVI was a solidly built movie. Very few things to trip over.

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:14 pm
by Captain Seafort
Deepcrush wrote:Oh I'm sure there was something to it. It could also have been that he was lacking points to make on it. STVI was a solidly built movie. Very few things to trip over.
The same's true of TWoK. The difference, I think, is that while II had layer upon layer to peel away, VI was just very solidly built, which reduces the degree of analysis possible.

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 6:50 pm
by Reliant121
TWoK always strikes me as the thinking persons TMP film, because it had a plethora of hidden messages and subplots to tap into. In contrast, TUD always struck me as a more plain and simple film. Both are enjoyable and very well made, but TWoK always seemed deeper, where TUD seemed more....gentle and "switch off" film.

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:22 pm
by Deepcrush
STII was for Khan. Thought upon thought, idea upon idea. A thousand plans with little sub-plans of their own.

STVI was for Kirk. Brash, brute and in the open. Kirk doesn't look for little tricks or ploys. He fights until he wins or dies. Then fights a little more for good luck.

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:43 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Good review, there. It's... what ST VI was. A good review for a good movie.

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:08 pm
by Tyyr
I gotta agree. TWoK had a lot of stuff going on below the surface, TUC didn't. It's not a bad movie, in fact it's probably my favorite TOS cast movie, it's just not got as much going on as TWoK. There's nothing to pick at because of how well it was done and not a ton of depth to get into.

Re: SFDebris - The Undiscovered Country

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2010 5:29 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I'm inclined to agree. His TWOK review was so in-depth and detailed because it was a movie which required an in-depth and detailed analysis. TUC, despite being a good movie, is fairly simple. Thus we get a simple review.