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I mean c'mon, look at this thing:

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Anyway the actual story:
SYDNEY - A conservation group's boat had its bow sheared off and was taking on water Wednesday after it was struck by a Japanese whaling ship in the frigid waters of Antarctica, the group said.

The boat's six crew members were safely transferred to another of the Sea Shepherd Conservation Society's vessels, the newly commissioned Bob Barker. The boat is named for the American game show host who donated $5 million to buy it.

The clash was the most serious in the past several years, during which the Sea Shepherd has sent vessels into far-southern waters to try to harass the Japanese fleet into ceasing its annual whale hunt.

Clashes using hand-thrown stink bombs, ropes meant to tangle propellers and high-tech sound equipment have been common in recent years, and crashes between ships have sometimes occurred.

The society said its vessel Ady Gil - a high-tech speedboat that resembles a stealth bomber - was hit by the Japanese ship the Shonan Maru near Commonwealth Bay and had about 10 feet (three meters) of its bow knocked off.

Locky Maclean, the first mate of the society's lead ship, said one crewman from New Zealand appeared to have suffered two cracked ribs, but the others were uninjured. The crew members were safely transferred to the group's third vessel, though the Ady Gil's captain remained on board to see what could be salvaged, he said.

"The original prognostic was that it was sinking, but at this point it is flooded with water but it seems to still have a bit of buoyancy," Maclean told The Associated Press by satellite phone from the ship, the Steve Irwin.

The group accused the Japanese ship of deliberately ramming the Ady Gil.

"They were stopped dead in the water when the incident occurred," Maclean said of the Ady Gil. "When they realized that the Shonan Maru was aiming right for them, they tried to go into reverse to get the bow out of the way but it was too late. The Shonan Maru made a course correction and plowed directly into the front end of the boat."

Glenn Inwood, a New Zealand-based spokesman for the Institute of Cetacean Research, the Japanese government-linked body that carries out the hunt, disputed Sea Shepherd's account, saying video shot from the whaler showed the conservationists' boat moving toward the whaler just before the collision.

"The Shonan Maru steams to port to avoid a collision. I guess they, the Ady Gil, miscalculated," Inwood told The Associated Press. "Sea Shepherd claims that the Shonan Maru has rammed the Ady Gil and cut it in half - its claim is just not vindicated by the video."

Japan's Fisheries Agency said it was still checking details about the clash. Spokesman Toshinori Uoya said there were no injuries on the Japanese side.

Sea Shepherd sends boats to Antarctic waters each southern summer to try to stop the Japanese whaling fleet from killing whales under what it calls a scientific whaling program. Conservationists and many countries say the program is a front for commercial whaling.

Each side routinely accuses the other of dangerous activity during what has become a cat-and-mouse chase in one of the world's most remote regions.

Australia and New Zealand - which both have Antarctic territories and are among the closest nations to the waters where the hunt goes on - have urged both sides to show restraint, warning that they are far away from rescue if anything goes wrong.

"Our strongest condemnation applies to any violent or dangerous activity that takes place in these remote and inhospitable waters," Australian Environment Minister Peter Garrett said Wednesday. He said he could confirm the collision, but that details were still unclear.

Wednesday's confrontation with whalers marked the first for the 1,200-ton Bob Barker, which rescued the crew. Sea Shepherd only recently bought the ship after its namesake, the former host of the "The Price Is Right" game show and a longtime animal rights acitvist, donated the money. Barker met Sea Shepherd founder Paul Watson through a fellow activist and said he was instantly impressed.

"He said he thought he could put the Japanese whaling fleet out of business if he had $5 million," Barker recalled. "I said, 'I think you do have the skills to do that, and I have $5 million, so let's get it on,' so that's what we did."

Barker, 86, said he was "genuinely proud" to be associated with Sea Shepherd.

The Ady Gil, meanwhile, clashed earlier Wednesday with another Japanese ship, the whaling fleet's mothership, the Nisshin Maru.

The Institute of Cetacean Research said the Ady Gil came "within collision distance" of the Nisshin Maru's bow and repeatedly dangled a rope in the water that could have entangled the ship's rudder and propeller.

The Ady Gil's crew lobbed small projectiles designed to release a foul smell, and the whalers responded by firing high-powered hoses to keep the Sea Shepherd vessels away, the institute said in a statement.

"The obstructionist activities of the Sea Shepherd threaten the lives and property of those involved in our research, are very dangerous and cannot be forgiven," it said.

Maclean confirmed the earlier clash.

Japan's whaling fleet left in November for its annual hunt in Antarctic waters. Uoya said that for security reasons, details of the fleet's composition, the number of whales it hopes to take and the number of crew members are not being released to the public.

The Ady Gil is a 78-foot (24-meter) black-painted trimaran made of carbon fiber and Kevlar in a design meant to pierce waves. It was built to challenge the record for the quickest circumnavigation of the globe and can travel faster than 46 mph (75 kph).

Sea Shepherd unveiled the Ady Gil last October saying a California millionaire with the same name had donated most of the money for it. At the time, the group said the boat would be used to intercept and physically block Japanese harpoon vessels.

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Associated Press writers Eric Talmadge in Tokyo, Rod McGuirk in Canberra, Australia, and Ray Lilley in Wellington, New Zealand, contributed to this report.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100106/ap_ ... ca_whaling

I think Japan's claim that they harvest a thousand or so whales annually for "research" isn't even meant to fool anybody.

But it just hasn't been worth it for any government to bother doing anything about it.

Now if only the Somalian pirates didn't mind the cold so much......
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I'm not on the Japanese's side here. This really is just commercial whaling under an incredibly flimsy pretext, but the Sea Shepherds are really the most incompetent bunch of mooks out there. The really are just a bunch of fucking idiots and when bad things happen to them, even at the hands of the whalers, I just laugh.

These are the guys the show "Whale Wars" is about. This should be some epic TV.
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I agree that the Japanese are completely in the wrong as far as the morality of the issue, but I don't know what these marine-PETA's intend to do with a handful of speedboats.

An another tack, since when do these eco-nazi groups have enough cash to field things like that boat?
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Since they get rich idiots to support them.

These imbeciles do a few things, all of them badly. They throw, like girls, stink bombs at ships or packets of cellulose powder to make the deck slippery. They try to get between the whalers and the whales, but they're such awful seamen that they usually only do that by accident. They lay out lines in the water to attempt to foul the whaler's props. When all that fails, and it does, they just ram them.

Honestly I don't know why they don't get arrested. The shit the pull is on camera and filmed, usually from both sides, with full on admissions of the Sea Shepherds that they're intentionally ramming or cutting off the other ships. Pretty much everything they do is illegal and fully documented, BY THEM. They even claim responsibility for the sinking of several whalers in port with limpet mines. I honestly think that the bad feelings towards the Japanese is the only reason these guys aren't arrested for piracy and terrorism.

Well, that and how incredibly bad at it they are.
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Tyyr wrote:I honestly think that the bad feelings towards the Japanese is the only reason these guys aren't arrested for piracy and terrorism.
That, combined with the ever-present question of, "Who's going to do it?" Most, if not all, of what they do is in extraterritorial waters; and since everyone's so fed up with the Japanese BS about whaling that nobody's going to go overboard to lend a hand.
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Mikey wrote: An another tack, since when do these eco-nazi groups have enough cash to field things like that boat?
According to the article, Bob freaking Barker. And some other rich indaviduals who then get the ships they financed named after them.

@Tyrr They seriously mined some ships?!? I didn't realize they got that hardcore.

The thing I don't get is if they're going to try physically blocking the Japanese ships and generally going for close in shenanigans, why do they chose to build their cool and fast but expensive and fragile shuttlecraft instead of picking up a used steel hulled fishing trawler that could handle some physical contact (and be annoying with their stabalizer booms).
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The founder of the Sea Shepherds was booted from Green Peace for being too radical.

They didn't build this boat. It was built to set a circumnavigation record using bio fuels (which it didn't, use biofuels that is, it did set a record though a sailboat beat it by 10 days) and it was sold to the Sea Shepherds.

The extra-territorial comment is actually a good one. While these ships are Danish flagged the Danes really don't give a shit about them so the only people who might have real authority over those boats doesn't care. The Japanese do but unless the Shepherds go to Japan I doubt they'd be extradited from any other country.
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Ah. I thought they were having more ships of the same design built.

But I poked around after your comments, and the "Bob Barker" is a much more logical 1,200 ton reinforced ship that could actually come out as the winner in a similar "incident" .
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Good. Fuck these dicks, you sail around throwing acid at dirt poor third world crew members, you get what you deserve. Fucking terrorists.
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Now that I'm home I got to watch both videos. It was the Shepherd's fault. Their boat was still moving towards the Japanese at the time of impact. They basically shoved their bow in front of the Japanese boat. From the Shepherd's video it almost looked like the Japanese boat was turning away. Could be the waves and the angles though. Regardless the Ady Gil screwed up and got themselves hammered. Figures those morons would screw up like this.

Also, don't trust anything their leader says. The guy is on the record saying that it's perfectly acceptable to lie and make shit up to advance the cause.
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Screw up? I'm not sure. One of the best ways to get people to listen to you despite your craziness is to become a victim - even if it's an artificial situation.
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No, trust me. These guys are total fucking idiots. It's not an act, they really are morons. Watch Whale Wars some time. It's sad really.
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