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I hate the corruptness of American cops. No offense to anyone who wears a badge but damn, you've got some messed up partners in the field.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=pDmAKnw7AJw



Sorry I'm bored tonight and surfing youtube. Pretty scary stuff... and the video poster misspelled 'attack'

Yeah I just love how US cops use the taser the second they feel that a subject is getting to out of hand.

Er, when a politician tells them to stop, aren't they supposed to?
What the hell did they taze him for? They had him on the ground!

Those were university cops, who seem to have a habit of overreacting to gobby idiots. There was a similar incident, a few months ago in California IIRC, where some joker was thrown out of the campus library, started causing a ruckus, and was promptly tasered repeatedly while he was on the ground.

Apart from the issue of why they were overreacting to him asking a question, part of the problem is probably a lack of training on the part of the cops. At no point until they got the troublemaker on the floor (which seemed to be done very sloppilly, with the potential for causing serious injury if they or he had landed awkwardly) did they have any control over the situation. As soon as he started pushing people (at about 0:32) he should have been dropped on the floor and cuffed. Instead they let him push them around, and were reacting to the situation instead of taking action themselves to control him.

There is another aspect to the problem. The non-lethal effects of the taser are espoused so much, that cops often forget that it is still a very serious thing to use them. An old colleague of mine was a former police patrolman, then lieutenant - after years as a paratrooper. He told me that one of the macho bonding exercises they used to do on the force, unofficially, was SHOOT EACH OTHER WITH A TASER OR STUN GUN, just to see who could take it and keep standing the longest! If that's your attitude towards these pieces of equipment, then you have no common-sense block from using them too early and too often while on duty.

To qualify for a taser as a prisoner guard you have to be shot by one in the state of Missouri. I've got several friends who are guards. Apparently it hurts

It hurts a great deal (so I'm told...), so you'd think people who have suffered it would be more sensitive to its effects...

alas some of the people,who are more acutely aware of pain, more readily dish it out....

He was jumping up and down shouting for an answer to a question that kerry was answering for him. If he would have waited for another 5 seconds he would have been ok. The cops told him to stop and instead start spitting about free speech but no one was stopping him from talking. They just told him to calm down and ease of on the question. He got rude, the cops asked him to be calm, he ignored them, they took the mic, he grabbed it back, they asked him to leave, they asked him to leave again, then again, they pushed him back all the way to the hall door for god sake. He could have just left like they asked him to. Instead he started pushing the cops. He got what he had coming to him. He couldn't take the hint that they were yelling in his ear.

Oh and to the pain from a taser. It hurts, a lot, i worked at petsmart when i was younger and my friends there played a prank on everyone and handed around a live taser used to supress dangerous animals, mostly large dogs.

Deepcrush wrote:He was jumping up and down shouting for an answer to a question that kerry was answering for him. If he would have waited for another 5 seconds he would have been ok. The cops told him to stop and instead start spitting about free speech but no one was stopping him from talking. They just told him to calm down and ease of on the question. He got rude, the cops asked him to be calm, he ignored them, they took the mic, he grabbed it back, they asked him to leave, they asked him to leave again, then again, they pushed him back all the way to the hall door for god sake. He could have just left like they asked him to. Instead he started pushing the cops. He got what he had coming to him. He couldn't take the hint that they were yelling in his ear.

Wrong. He was standing waiting, having asked his question, when the cops moved in with no provocation from him whatsoever and attempted to manhandle him out of the hall despite Kerry trying to calm everyone down. At that point he flipped, and started pushing and shoving the cops. Rather than getting a grip on the situation and restraining him properly, the cops tried to half-drag, half-carry him out of the hall, lost control of him at the back, and piled on to try and subdue him, with one cop wrapping his arm around the bloke's throat. At that point, with the bloke on the floor, rather than control him using restraint holds and cuffs, they tased him.

I've little sympathy for the troublemaker in question, given that he brought most of the trouble on himself by acting up when the cops initially moved in, but they had no reason to go after him in the first place, and the methods they used to try and subdue him were unprofessional, and the tasing was unnecessary and excessive.

those persons did seem to be inept and a little histrionic

Considering that Kerry was telling them to stop, you'd think that they'd, well, stop...

kerry seems facially,to be made from weathered-oak,has a strangely wooden face,its hypnotising in a morbid way,wish he'd won the election though

I think half the planet agrees with you there...

sadly,that means, half don't