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1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:02 pm
by Tsukiyumi
ROME - High food prices have pushed another 105 million people into hunger in the first half of 2009, the head of the U.N. World Food Program said Friday, raising the total number of hungry people to over 1 billion.

Urging rich nations at a meeting of the Group of Eight's development ministers not cut back on aid, Josette Sheeran told Reuters the world faced a "human catastrophe" as more and more people struggle to eat a decent meal.

"This year we are clocking in on average four million new hungry people a week, urgently hungry," Sheeran told Reuters.

"Already for the first six months of this year, 105 million people have been added," she said, citing figures to be released by the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization next week that will raise the total number of undernourished people to over 1 billion.

In 2008, FAO said the world's hungry numbered 963 million.

The WFP needs $6.4 billion this year for food aid, but donors' contributions have fallen way behind that level - it had around $1.5 billion at the end of last week.

'Urgent human crisis'
The agency says it has had to cut food aid rations and shut down some operations in eastern Africa and North Korea because of the credit crunch.

"I know it seems a big figure, but if you compare it with the global stimulus package, it means that for less than 1 percent of that we could help meet the urgent human crisis that is unfolding, and that is just as essential to the stability of the world," Sheeran said.

She said that despite a decline in most food prices from record peaks last year, they remained stubbornly high in developing countries, while global food aid was at a 20-year low.

The financial crisis has only made things worse, and in terms of staple food, people in poorer countries today can only afford about a third of what they could afford three years ago.

In a statement after a two-day meeting in Rome, G8 ministers reaffirmed their commitment to more than double aid to Africa to $25 billion a year by 2010.

But a report this week said the group was collectively off course in delivering on those pledges, made at a G8 summit in Scotland in 2005.

The report, by anti-poverty body ONE, was particularly critical of Italy, saying Rome was trailing far behind other nations in meeting aid targets and that undermined its credibility as G8 president this year.

"We have confirmed our commitment to find the resources this year to bring us back on track and fulfill our undertakings," Foreign Minister Franco Frattini told reporters Friday, responding to the report.

ONE said Italy had delivered only three percent of the aid increase to Africa pledged by Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi four years ago.
Well, so much for charitable donations picking up the slack...

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:28 pm
by Mikey
The situation that caused this increase in hunger also, necessarily, diminished the availability of charitable donations.

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:31 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Of course. I just seem to hear a lot of "charities will take care of the poor" lately. Doesn't seem to be doing the trick.

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:36 pm
by Sionnach Glic
That line is often said by rich people who've never needed to rely on them before.

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:37 pm
by Monroe
And this is why I think eugenics is needed. We can't support our population today how can we in the future? Rely on miracle technologies?

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:49 pm
by Mikey
No matter what the need, eugenics always come down to someone deciding which other people shouldn't live. That's a completely untenable moral position.

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 7:55 pm
by Tsukiyumi
I personally just suggest more research into genetically-enhanced, fast-growing crops.

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:41 pm
by Lazar
Monroe wrote:And this is why I think eugenics is needed. We can't support our population today how can we in the future? Rely on miracle technologies?
Eugenics is not the same thing as population control or family planning. Eugenicists would seek to breed humans for desired traits, like we do with domestic animals; AFAIK even the most ardent supporters of population reduction usually don't subscribe to eugenics.
Tsukiyumi wrote:I personally just suggest more research into genetically-enhanced, fast-growing crops.
But we would need to be careful to avoid the problems of monocultures (having a vulnerable, low-diversity gene pool) and of GM crops destroying local crop diversity. I'm not against GM crops, but I think we should also aim for some of the agroecological techniques (e.g. agroforestry) that were mentioned in that NG article I linked to earlier, which can allow people to achieve huge increases in crop production sustainably, without the use of advanced technology. I got the impression that Africa is really underdeveloped in that regard, and that with enough investment we could really boost the agricultural output there.

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:03 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Lazar wrote:
Monroe wrote:And this is why I think eugenics is needed. We can't support our population today how can we in the future? Rely on miracle technologies?
Eugenics is not the same thing as population control or family planning. Eugenicists would seek to breed humans for desired traits, like we do with domestic animals; AFAIK even the most ardent supporters of population reduction usually don't subscribe to eugenics.
Oddly enough, the primary reason I don't have any children is because of the three women I would choose to reproduce with, one is deceased, one won't speak to me because of my drug phase, and the other... Well, I'm working on that. If necessary, I'll illegally clone myself to produce offspring. I think there's enough mentally inferior stock around as it is.
Lazar wrote:
Tsukiyumi wrote:I personally just suggest more research into genetically-enhanced, fast-growing crops.
But we would need to be careful to avoid the problems of monocultures (having a vulnerable, low-diversity gene pool) and of GM crops destroying local crop diversity. I'm not against GM crops, but I think we should also aim for some of the agroecological techniques (e.g. agroforestry) that were mentioned in that NG article I linked to earlier, which can allow people to achieve huge increases in crop production sustainably, without the use of advanced technology. I got the impression that Africa is really underdeveloped in that regard, and that with enough investment we could really boost the agricultural output there.
I think all avenues of increased production should be followed, though I really fail to see why GE crops are shunned, beyond ignorance of the subject.

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:09 pm
by Mikey
Tsukiyumi wrote:one is deceased
Yeah, that's probably a problem.

And eugenics... yeesh. It just skirts (if not trods on) the line of morality when it comes to legal authority.

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:16 pm
by Monroe
Mikey wrote:No matter what the need, eugenics always come down to someone deciding which other people shouldn't live. That's a completely untenable moral position.
Yeah, sad truth.

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:21 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Mikey wrote:
Tsukiyumi wrote:one is deceased
Yeah, that's probably a problem.
Yeah, I'd say so. There's a reason she was the first girl I fell in love with.
Mikey wrote:And eugenics... yeesh. It just skirts (if not trods on) the line of morality when it comes to legal authority.
For me, that's a personal decision, not one I'd force on others. I refuse to produce more substandard offspring, is all.

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:41 pm
by Mikey
Substandard? Unless you're referring to potential mates, the sitch with your knees isn't inheritable.

Re: 1 Billion Hungry People

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:53 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Mikey wrote:Substandard? Unless you're referring to potential mates, the sitch with your knees isn't inheritable.
I was referring to potential mates. At the moment, the only one who qualifies is Uzume. She's otherwise occupied.

The ACL injuries could happen to anyone, if they aren't careful.