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How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:22 pm
by Angharrad
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/11/us/11 ... &th&emc=th
Museum Gunman a Longtime Foe of Government

Gerald Herbert/Associated Press

By DAVID STOUT
Published: June 10, 2009
WASHINGTON - An 88-year-old white supremacist with a rifle walked into the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, one of the capital's most visited sites, on Wednesday afternoon and began shooting, fatally wounding a security guard and sending tourists scrambling before he himself was shot, the authorities said.

The gunman was identified by law enforcement officials as James W. von Brunn, who embraces various conspiracy theories involving Jews, blacks and other minority groups and at one point waged a personal war with the federal government.

The gunman and the security guard were both taken to nearby George Washington University Hospital, with Mr. von Brunn handcuffed to a gurney, witnesses said. The guard, Stephen T. Johns, died a short time later. Museum officials said he had worked there for six years; The Associated Press reported his age as 39.

Mayor Adrian M. Fenty said Mr. von Brunn was in critical condition. Chief Cathy L. Lanier of the Washington police said the gunman walked into the museum's main entrance shortly before 1 p.m. and began shooting without warning. At least one security guard was returning fire; a total of five or six shots are believed to have been fired.

Officials and others who track conspiracy theorists have long been familiar with Mr. von Brunn, whose latest address is believed to be in Eastern Maryland, in part because he maintains a Web site. (Wednesday night, only an archived version of the site was available.) He has claimed variously to be a member of Mensa, the high-I.Q. society; to have played varsity football at a Midwestern college, where he earned a degree in journalism; to have been a PT boat commander in World War II; and to be a painter and an author.

Mr. von Brunn has also claimed to have been victimized by a court system run by Jews and blacks.

Before Wednesday, he was best known to law enforcement officials for having walked into the Washington headquarters of the Federal Reserve System on Dec. 7, 1981, with a bag slung over the shoulder of his trench coat. A guard chased him to the second floor, where the Fed's board was meeting, and found a revolver, a hunting knife and a sawed-off shotgun in the bag.

Mr. von Brunn, who lived in Lebanon, N.H., at the time, told the police he wanted to take board members hostage to focus news media attention on their responsibility for high interest rates and the nation's economic difficulties. He was convicted in 1983 and served several years in prison on attempted kidnapping, burglary, assault and weapons charges.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, a civil rights organization based in Alabama, said Wednesday that Mr. von Brunn is a racist and anti-Semite with "a long history of associations with prominent neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers."

Rabbis Marvin Hier, founder and dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, and Abraham Cooper, an associate dean, said in a statement that the attack at the museum showed "that the cancer of hatred, bigotry and anti-Semitism is alive and well in America."

"It is deeply disturbing that one of America's most powerful symbols of the memory of the Holocaust was selected as the site of the attack just days after President Obama accompanied Holocaust survivor Elie Wiesel to the Buchenwald death camp," they said.

Opened in 1993, the museum is situated near the Mall and the Potomac River. Since its dedication, it has had nearly 30 million visitors, including more than 8 million schoolchildren and 85 heads of state, the museum says on its Web site.

Like all public buildings in the capital, the museum has heavy security, with visitors required to pass through metal detectors. But someone determined to enter a building with a firearm can sometimes do so. In July 1998, a gunman killed two police officers and wounded a tourist in the Capitol.

Museum officials issued a statement expressing shock and grief over Wednesday's attack and said the museum would be closed Thursday in honor of Mr. Johns.

On Wednesday evening, President Obama issued a statement saying, in part, "This outrageous act reminds us that we must remain vigilant against anti-Semitism and prejudice in all its forms."

Brian Knowlton and Theo Emery contributed reporting.

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:31 pm
by Tyyr
He didn't, he walked in and immediately opened fire. He didn't sneak all the way into the museum, he opened fire right at the security station in the front.

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:36 pm
by Teaos
This along with the abortion guy getting shot, looks like the right wing extremists are out in force.

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:52 pm
by Angharrad
Yeah, I saw that, I just couldn't think of anything to title this.

I went back and added the link.

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:08 pm
by Mikey
Nice. Too bad the guy hates blacks, too - he'd get on well with Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Barack Obama's former pastor, who just announced that "Them Jews ain't going to let him talk to me."

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:12 pm
by Tyyr
Ya know, for a man planning to run for President why in the hell would you stay in that man's congregation?

As for the shooter, it really is a pity they didn't kill the bastard before he harmed anyone. Would have saved everyone a lot of time and trouble.

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:13 am
by Vic
Teaos wrote:This along with the abortion guy getting shot, looks like the right wing extremists are out in force.
Hmmm, if ya want to put a political label on it, anti-abortion is clearly left wing. So let's keep it out of polotics and just call both of the idiots freaks, shall we?

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:24 am
by Deepcrush
Vic wrote:Hmmm, if ya want to put a political label on it, anti-abortion is clearly left wing. So let's keep it out of polotics and just call both of the idiots freaks, shall we?
Anti-abortion is a Right Wing ideal bud.

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:30 am
by Vic
DOH! Sorry got a little mixed up there. I hate politics.

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:30 am
by Teaos
Vic wrote:
Teaos wrote:This along with the abortion guy getting shot, looks like the right wing extremists are out in force.
Hmmm, if ya want to put a political label on it, anti-abortion is clearly left wing. So let's keep it out of polotics and just call both of the idiots freaks, shall we?
????...?

Yeah if someone half a world away knows more about your politcal spectrum than you do you have issues.

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:33 am
by Deepcrush
Vic wrote:DOH! Sorry got a little mixed up there. I hate politics.
Then you should note to yourself...

"Politics are not my friend, stay away."

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:38 am
by Vic
Yes Sir. :takecover:

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:41 am
by Deepcrush
DON'T CALL ME SIR GOD DAMMIT!

Sorry, flash back... :laughroll:

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:45 am
by Vic
:laughroll: Reminds me the first time I called my Company Commander Sir in boot. That got me twenty and a lecture on how PO1 work for a living. I guess I am lucky he was not a CPO, I made not have made it out alive. :lol:

Re: How did he get a rifle in there?

Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:49 am
by Deepcrush
I'm pretty sure everyone here has made that mistake at some point in time.

Still, 20 miles is a bit steep... :worried: