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62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:40 pm
by JudgeKing
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This year, an estimated 1.5 million Americans will declare bankruptcy. Many people may chalk up that misfortune to overspending or a lavish lifestyle, but a new study suggests that more than 60 percent of people who go bankrupt are actually capsized by medical bills.
Expert: "Medical bills ... are an issue that can very easily and in pretty short order overwhelm a lot families."

Expert: "Medical bills ... are an issue that can very easily and in pretty short order overwhelm a lot families."

Bankruptcies due to medical bills increased by nearly 50 percent in a six-year period, from 46 percent in 2001 to 62 percent in 2007, and most of those who filed for bankruptcy were middle-class, well-educated homeowners, according to a report that will be published in the August issue of The American Journal of Medicine.

"Unless you're a Warren Buffett or Bill Gates, you're one illness away from financial ruin in this country," says lead author Steffie Woolhandler, M.D., of the Harvard Medical School, in Cambridge, Mass. "If an illness is long enough and expensive enough, private insurance offers very little protection against medical bankruptcy, and that's the major finding in our study."

Woolhandler and her colleagues surveyed a random sample of 2,314 people who filed for bankruptcy in early 2007, looked at their court records, and then interviewed more than 1,000 of them. Health.com: Expert advice on getting health insurance and affordable care for chronic pain
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They concluded that 62.1 percent of the bankruptcies were medically related because the individuals either had more than $5,000 (or 10 percent of their pretax income) in medical bills, mortgaged their home to pay for medical bills, or lost significant income due to an illness. On average, medically bankrupt families had $17,943 in out-of-pocket expenses, including $26,971 for those who lacked insurance and $17,749 who had insurance at some point.

Overall, three-quarters of the people with a medically-related bankruptcy had health insurance, they say.

"That was actually the predominant problem in patients in our study -- 78 percent of them had health insurance, but many of them were bankrupted anyway because there were gaps in their coverage like co-payments and deductibles and uncovered services," says Woolhandler. "Other people had private insurance but got so sick that they lost their job and lost their insurance." Health.com: Where the money goes -- A breast cancer donation guide

However, Peter Cunningham, Ph.D., a senior fellow at the Center for Studying Health System Change, a nonpartisan policy research organization in Washington, D.C., isn't completely convinced. He says it's often hard to tell in which cases medical bills add to the bleak financial picture without being directly responsible for the bankruptcies.

"I'm not sure that it is correct to say that medical problems were the direct cause of all of these bankruptcies," he says. "In most of these cases, it's going to be medical expenses and other things, other debt that is accumulating."

Either way, he agrees that medical bills are an increasing problem for many people. Health.com: 5 quick ways to stop back pain

"I think medical bills are something that a lot of families are having a lot of difficulty with and whether it's the direct cause of bankruptcy or whether it helps to push them over the edge because they already were in a precarious financial situation, it's a big concern and hopefully that's what medical reform will try to address," he says.

The study may overestimate the number of bankruptcies caused by medical bills yet underestimate the financial burden of health care on American families, because most people struggle along but don't end up declaring bankruptcy, according to Cunningham.

"Bankruptcy is the most extreme or final step for people who are having problems paying medical bills," he says. "Medical bills and medical costs are an issue that can very easily and in pretty short order overwhelm a lot families who are on otherwise solid financial ground, including those with private insurance." Health.com: Where to find money to pay for your major health bills

His group's research found that medical bills unduly stress 1 in 5 families.

Either way, the high cost of health care is a problem that's probably getting worse for people in the United States, particularly since the economic picture became grimmer after the study was conducted. Health.com: Yoga moves to beat stress, insomnia, and pain

"The recession didn't happen until a year after our study," says Woolhandler. "We're quite sure that the problem of bankruptcy overall is worse, the numbers have been soaring, and the number this year is expected to be higher than it was before Congress tightened bankruptcy eligibility in 2005."
I found the bolded bit pretty fucking disgraceful, to be honest.

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:47 pm
by Tsukiyumi
I saw this yesterday; it pisses me off, for sure. Low-quality care at a premium price seems to be the norm here in America...

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 3:52 pm
by Teaos
People blame Doctors and Doctors blame patients, if it wasnt so pathetic it would be funny.

Patients think Doctors get rich off their huge bills so they sue them when ever they can. Doctors get raped by malpractice insurance and loans and really arent that well off (compared to people with equal levels of education they are actually some of the worst off). The winner, insurance companies.

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 4:06 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Teaos wrote:...The winner, insurance companies.
Believe me, I know.

The winner is always some company.

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:27 pm
by Sionnach Glic
And yet certain people continue to insist that trusting your very life to the a company whose only motivation is to make money (thus providing the least care) isn't a bad idea.

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 7:31 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Sorry for the double post, but it's only just after hitting me how fucking huge that number is.
Dublin has a population of about 1.5 million. So this is effectively the population of a country's capital city going bankrupt every single year/ Holy fuck.

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:02 pm
by Aaron
Best health care system in the world my ass. Mind boggling that Americans continue to oppose universal health care. :roll:

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sat Jun 06, 2009 11:14 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Cpl Kendall wrote:...Mind boggling that wealthy Americans continue to oppose universal health care. :roll:
Edited for accuracy. I doubt you'd get many complaints from the poor or the working class.

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:20 am
by Sonic Glitch
Tsukiyumi wrote:
Cpl Kendall wrote:... wealthy Americans continue to oppose universal health care. :roll:
Edited for accuracy. I doubt you'd get many complaints from the poor or the working class.
Furthere edited.. not really mind-boggling that wealthy americans oppose universal health care.

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 3:24 am
by Tsukiyumi
Of course. Then they'd have to share. Totally unreasonable. :roll:

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:18 am
by Aaron
Tsukiyumi wrote:Of course. Then they'd have to share. Totally unreasonable. :roll:
But they'd be paying for others to use the system! If your poor clearly your not working hard enough and if you can't pull yourself out of the gutter then you'd better die and decrease the surplus population!

*No, I don't actually believe that.

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 2:24 pm
by Tyyr
Tsukiyumi wrote:Of course. Then they'd have to share. Totally unreasonable. :roll:
Yes, who'd imagine that those who'd benefit least from such a system, and would have to shoulder the bill might oppose such a thing. That makes no sense at all.

I'm no where near wealth and I'm not interested in universal health care in the least.

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:13 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Cpl Kendall wrote:
Tsukiyumi wrote:Of course. Then they'd have to share. Totally unreasonable. :roll:
But they'd be paying for others to use the system! If your poor clearly your not working hard enough and if you can't pull yourself out of the gutter then you'd better die and decrease the surplus population!
That is pretty much what it amounts to, yes. "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps!" Besides the fact that that violates the laws of physics, it also ignores the fact that you can't make something from nothing.
Cpl Kendall wrote:*No, I don't actually believe that.
I know. :lol:

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 9:57 pm
by Tyyr
Tsukiyumi wrote:That is pretty much what it amounts to, yes. "Pull yourself up by your bootstraps!" Besides the fact that that violates the laws of physics, it also ignores the fact that you can't make something from nothing.
If you ignore the fact that people still do it, yeah, it's not possible.

Re: 62.1 % of Bankrupticies caused by medical bills

Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 10:00 pm
by Aaron
Tyyr wrote: Yes, who'd imagine that those who'd benefit least from such a system, and would have to shoulder the bill might oppose such a thing. That makes no sense at all.

I'm no where near wealth and I'm not interested in universal health care in the least.
"Fuck you, I've got mine!"

Better not get seriously ill buddy.