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Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 10:25 am
by Monroe
Alright, so I was thinking, in the Christian religion God impregnated the Virgin Mary. So this creates a Catch 22. Did God rape her? If so then that would be evil. But if she consensually cheated on her husband with God then wouldn't she burn in hell? Jesus the Savior or no she cheated on her husband. But on the other hand if she was a virgin then they hadn't consummated their marriage and so was it really legit? If Joseph and Mary were just courting when God had his fling would Mary then still have a bad wrap? But then again what if Mary and God dated for awhile. Did God buy her dinner or just impregnate her and leave her in some stables. How many dates did they go on? Did he pay? Did Mary give it up on the first date and then marry Joseph? Does that make Joseph a cuckold?

Bottom line, is Joseph a cuckold and was Mary raped or is she the kind of woman to have many flings with deities?

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 11:49 am
by Sionnach Glic
I believe it was consentual. If I recall my old religion class correctly, God asked Mary would she be willing to give birth to Jesus. She agreed, and it was so. Mary and Joseph weren't actualy married at that point, though. He married her after she explained what had happened because any woman who was pregnant and not married back in ye olden days was stoned.

For me, the more interesting question is just how Joseph took it.

Mary: "I'm pregnant."
Joseph: "What? But we've never had sex!"
Mary: "Uh....God did it."

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:00 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Rochey wrote:...because any woman who was pregnant and not married back in ye olden days was stoned...
And, even in the modern day sometimes.








Oh wait, you meant the other kind of stoned. Gotcha. :P

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 1:33 pm
by Nickswitz
Um.... This is a tad odd. They weren't married at the time, so technically she didn't cheat on her husband. But there was no actual contact. He kinda made Jesus in her womb, so technically neither. But with the question your asking, it would be consensual based on the bible.

And yeah Rochey, he must have had a LOT of faith in her, lol.

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:04 am
by stitch626
Its actually quite simple. There was no sex. Therefore, no rape. Done.

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:45 am
by Mikey
Yeah, the Bible actually showed some forethought and conveniently made the whole thing a non-issue. Impregnation without intercourse; plus, no marital issues as they weren't yet married.

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:46 am
by Monroe
stitch626 wrote:Its actually quite simple. There was no sex. Therefore, no rape. Done.
Wish that would hold up in court :P

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:49 am
by Mikey
I kind of think it would. It must be pretty damned hard to indict someone of raping a woman who'd never had intercourse. of any kind.

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:01 am
by Monroe
Mikey wrote:I kind of think it would. It must be pretty damned hard to indict someone of raping a woman who'd never had intercourse. of any kind.
But what if the DNA pointed to that?

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:03 am
by Mikey
Monroe wrote:
Mikey wrote:I kind of think it would. It must be pretty damned hard to indict someone of raping a woman who'd never had intercourse. of any kind.
But what if the DNA pointed to that?
Really? How would you get semen into the canal of a woman who's never had intercourse? Super-Soaker?

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 5:39 am
by Monroe
Mikey wrote:
Monroe wrote:
Mikey wrote:I kind of think it would. It must be pretty damned hard to indict someone of raping a woman who'd never had intercourse. of any kind.
But what if the DNA pointed to that?
Really? How would you get semen into the canal of a woman who's never had intercourse? Super-Soaker?
No you extract it from the child for a likely match.

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 9:39 am
by Sionnach Glic
I believe he's asking how she could have been raped if she was still a virgin.

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 10:29 am
by Monroe
Rochey wrote:I believe he's asking how she could have been raped if she was still a virgin.
A turkey paster?

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:44 pm
by Sionnach Glic
They didn't exist back in 0AD. :P

Re: Virgin Mary: Rape by God or Consensual?

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 4:06 pm
by Reliant121
An extra softened arrow?