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Rochey wrote:I don't think that the Bible is inconsistent with the currently generally accepted scientific theory of how the universe and earth was created.

THis is slightly correct, it's correct with scientific theory, and depending on how you look at it, could jive with how the universe was created and the earth, and please don't all jump on me, I can say this in faith that I am right. Maybe not earth made in seven literal days, but over thousands of years.

I should have included the context. He meant actual days, I believe.

Nickswitz wrote:

Rochey wrote:I don't think that the Bible is inconsistent with the currently generally accepted scientific theory of how the universe and earth was created.

THis is slightly correct, it's correct with scientific theory, and depending on how you look at it, could jive with how the universe was created and the earth, and please don't all jump on me, I can say this in faith that I am right. Maybe not earth made in seven literal days, but over thousands of years.

Um, no, the bible isn't at all consistent with currently generally accepted scientific theory.

You can interpret it to mean the same thing. But that's an entirely different from saying that it actually says the same thing as science. And the degree of interpretation required is generally so large that all you're really saying is that the bible can mean whatever you want it to mean.

True, it also depends on what interpretation you use, and what you look at, etc. So your right Graham, it can be interpreted as whatever you feel like interpreting it, based on how I interpret it, it goes along with modern science very well.

It also depends on which scientific theory. There are several out there.

Nickswitz wrote:True, it also depends on what interpretation you use, and what you look at, etc. So your right Graham, it can be interpreted as whatever you feel like interpreting it, based on how I interpret it, it goes along with modern science very well.

Well, let me put it this way : if we allow the degree of interpretation that it takes to make the bible fit modern science... then every single book ever written also fits modern science.

Sorry, I'm not sure how, if you could give me an example of how you have to interpret it severely for it to fit science, besides acts of god, because those wouldn't fit it.

Nickswitz wrote:Sorry, I'm not sure how, if you could give me an example of how you have to interpret it severely for it to fit science, besides acts of god, because those wouldn't fit it.

Goddy Boy sets the universe in motion and the bible is just a set of metaphors and embellished stories on how to live your life. You know, the RCC approach.

RCC?

and a lot of things that are in the bible actually were far ahead of their time in science and medicine. But I would like an actual example, if you would like I'll give you one of how it does go with modern science easily.

Nickswitz wrote:Sorry, I'm not sure how, if you could give me an example of how you have to interpret it severely for it to fit science, besides acts of god, because those wouldn't fit it.

What do you mean when you say "besides acts of god"? The bible either matches science or it does not. Acts of god get no exemption.

The bible is rife with scientific impossibility. For instance, a global flood and ark as described in the bible is impossible in many ways.

Um... like what?

And I say besides acts of god because based on biblical beliefs, God created scientific laws, so presumably he would know how to circumvent them.

Nickswitz wrote:RCC?

Roman Catholic Church.

and a lot of things that are in the bible actually were far ahead of their time in science and medicine. But I would like an actual example, if you would like I'll give you one of how it does go with modern science easily.

Hmm...global flood, 400 cubit wooden barge, all the animals in the world living within walking distance of Noah's house, water into wine, feeding thousands with a couple bread loaves, resurrection.

Nickswitz wrote:Um... like what?

And I say besides acts of god because based on biblical beliefs, God created scientific laws, so presumably he would know how to circumvent them.

That's a joke right?

Cpl Kendall wrote:global flood

How so, If the earth at one point was not as mountainous as it is now, why couldn't the earth be completely covered by water

Cpl Kendall wrote: 400 cubit wooden barge

A lot of time, he had 100 years to do it.

Cpl Kendall wrote:all the animals in the world living within walking distance of Noah's house

Um... they all came out from the Garden of Eden, so they kinda would have been in the same area, it couldn't have been too hard to round them up.

Cpl Kendall wrote:resurrection.

If he made life in the first place why wouldn't he be able to reanimate it.

Cpl Kendall wrote:

Nickswitz wrote:Um... like what?

And I say besides acts of god because based on biblical beliefs, God created scientific laws, so presumably he would know how to circumvent them.

That's a joke right?

No, If you build a robot, don't you know how to change it, how is that any different?

Nickswitz wrote:
How so, If the earth at one point was not as mountainous as it is now, why couldn't the earth be completely covered by water

Well for starters, it would have killed all the plant and animal life on the planet, save on Noah's barge.

A lot of time, he had 100 years to do it.

No, I'm asking where he got the tech to build a massive barge out of wood. We couldn't build 600ft metal ships until relatively recently. Let alone wood.

Um... they all came out from the Garden of Eden, so they kinda would have been in the same area, it couldn't have been too hard to round them up.

Uh huh, how'd he fit a fucking dinosaur on there then?

If he made life in the first place why wouldn't he be able to reanimate it.

Cpl Kendall wrote:

Nickswitz wrote:Um... like what?

And I say besides acts of god because based on biblical beliefs, God created scientific laws, so presumably he would know how to circumvent them.

That's a joke right?

No, If you build a robot, don't you know how to change it, how is that any different?

This all boils down to the "physical laws of the universe don't apply to him!" But if they don't and we can't observe him, then how the fuck do we know it's there. Actually I already know the answer, it starts with f and ends with h.