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Russia moves nuclear warships into the Caribbean

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:06 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Russia says to send nuclear warship to Caribbean

Conor Sweeney
Reuters North American News Service

Sep 08, 2008 11:11 EST

MOSCOW, Sept 8 (Reuters) - Russia said on Monday it would send a heavily-armed nuclear-powered cruiser to the Caribbean for a joint naval exercise with Venezuela, its first major manoeuvres on the United States' doorstep since the Cold War.

Russian officials denied the mission was linked to a naval standoff with U.S warships in the Black Sea, but it will take place at a time of high tension between Washington and Moscow over the conflict in Georgia.

Washington has played down the significance of the exercise.

Russia has criticised the United States for sending a command ship and two other naval vessels to Georgia, on its southern border, to deliver aid and show support for President Mikheil Saakashvili after Moscow sent troops into Georgia.

Kremlin leader Dmitry Medvedev asked on Saturday how Washington would feel "if we now dispatched humanitarian assistance to the Caribbean ... using our navy".

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Andrei Nesterenko said on Monday that the naval mission to Venezuela would include the nuclear-powered battle cruiser "Peter the Great", one of the world's largest combat warships.

Moscow's most modern destroyer, the "Admiral Chabanenko", will also steam to the Caribbean, along with other ships, including a fuel tanker, he added.

The naval exercise, to take place in November, will be backed up by an anti-submarine aircraft, based at a Venezuelan airfield, he said.

Russia denied that the move amounted to retaliation against the United States over its action in Georgia.

"We are talking about a planned event not linked with current political circumstances and not in any way connected to events in Georgia," he told a news briefing. The exercises "will in no way be directed against the interests of a third country".

The ships will participate in "joint manoeuvres, practice search and rescue and communications drills," Russian Navy spokesman Igor Dygalo said in a statement. He added the exercise had been planned for a year.

HIGH VISIBILITY

The 'Peter the Great' is large and heavily armed with both surface-to-surface and around 500 surface-to-air missiles, said Jon Rosamund, editor of Jane's Navy International, a specialist publication.

"On paper it's an immensely powerful ship," he said. "We are not really sure if this is a show of force or if it poses a viable operational capability at this stage," Rosamund said.

"These ships have far more capability, on paper, than the U.S. destroyers that went to the Black Sea, but it's difficult to compare capacity," Rosamund said. "The Russian navy is keen to be seen on the world stage."

Admiral Eduard Baltin, former commander of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, said the Caribbean manoeuvres meant "Russia is returning to the stage in its power and international relations which it, regrettably, lost at the end of last century".

"No one loves the weak," Baltin was quoted as saying by Russia's Interfax news agency.

But U.S. officials tried play down any concerns.

"We've seen the reports and we'll see how the exercise goes," said White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe.

The Pentagon said it was not concerned by the exercise.

"We exercise... all around the globe and have joint exercises with countries all over the world and so do many other nations," Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said.

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, an outspoken critic of the United States, said during a visit to Moscow in July that Russian warships or warplanes were welcome to visit.

Chavez is a major arms client of Moscow, saying he needs Russian weaponry to dissuade "the North American empire" from invading his country. (Additional reporting by Dmitry Solovyov in Moscow and Jeremy Pelofsky and Andrew Gray in Washington; writing by Michael Stott and Conor Sweeney; editing by Sami Aboudi)

Source: Reuters North American News Service
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Re: Russia moves nuclear warships into the Caribbean

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:21 pm
by Aaron
Where'd they find enough paint to cover the rust?

Re: Russia moves nuclear warships into the Caribbean

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:46 pm
by Sionnach Glic
:lol:

Re: Russia moves nuclear warships into the Caribbean

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:58 pm
by Tsukiyumi
:lol:

Rusty or not, I still wouldn't want to stare down a Kirov in anything other than an attack sub. Or a carrier battle group.

Re: Russia moves nuclear warships into the Caribbean

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:40 pm
by Mikey
I'm sure this has nothing to do with Putin recently commenting that after the invasion of Georgia, Russia is back and the world should take notice. :roll:

Re: Russia moves nuclear warships into the Caribbean

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:04 pm
by Mark
Wonderful. We get to start up with Russia again. Terriffic.

Re: Russia moves nuclear warships into the Caribbean

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:06 pm
by Mikey
I won't go as far as saying Putin is a paper tiger, but Russia ain't what it used to be... and Medvedev is showing signs of learning to think for himself.

Re: Russia moves nuclear warships into the Caribbean

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:11 pm
by Captain Seafort
Mikey wrote:I won't go as far as saying Putin is a paper tiger, but Russia ain't what it used to be... and Medvedev is showing signs of learning to think for himself.
I wouldn't go that far. On a fairly long leash, sure, but thinking for himself? Not a chance.

Re: Russia moves nuclear warships into the Caribbean

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:10 am
by Mikey
I said "starting to show signs..."

Journey of a 1,000 miles and all that.

Re: Russia moves nuclear warships into the Caribbean

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:41 am
by Teaos
So long as those ships dont try to place nukes in Cuba we should be fine for awhile yet...

Re: Russia moves nuclear warships into the Caribbean

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 3:03 am
by Deepcrush
I wonder how many of their ships they've had to scrap to kept that thing floating all these years? :P