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George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:37 pm
by Aaron
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Today was the first day for California to issue marriage licenses for same-sex couples and George Takei, along with his partner Brad Altman, were literally the first in line to pick one up for their September wedding. It was a media circus in West Hollywood, with Takei making big news across the country. Below we have VIDEOS and pictures and links to some of the coverage.
And so people don't wonder what's going on or ask why we should care that an actor got married. Here's some context:

Same Sex Marriage In California
SAN FRANCISCO, California (CNN) -- California officials began issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples Monday evening after a state Supreme Court ruling legalizing the ceremonies took effect.
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The May 15 ruling took effect at 5:01 p.m. (8:01 p.m. ET) Monday. Gay and lesbian couples had lined up for hours outside county clerk's offices in anticipation of the decision coming into force.

Lesbian rights activists Del Martin, 87, and Phyllis Lyon, 84, were the first same-sex couple to receive a marriage license in San Francisco on Monday, with Mayor Gavin Newsom presiding over their wedding ceremony.

"This is an extraordinary moment in history," Newsom told a cheering, standing-room-only crowd at City Hall. "I think today, marriage as an institution has been strengthened."

The high-profile mayor heated up the debate on same-sex marriages in February 2004, when he ordered city officials to issue marriage licenses to gay and lesbian couples. Martin and Lyon were the first to exchange wedding vows after the order, only to see the ceremony voided later. iReport.com: Share your feelings, photos and videos

"I think it's a wonderful day and I have to thank our mayor for most of it," Lyon said. "I'm very happy and very grateful for all of you."

Clerks expect a much larger number of couples to show up Tuesday morning to complete marriage-license applications that replace "Bride" and "Groom" with "Partner A" and "Partner B." Video Watch as longtime lesbian couple emerges from wedding »

The decision makes California the nation's second state, after Massachusetts, to legalize same-sex marriage. Four other states allow civil unions.

Robin Tyler and Diane Olson, one of the first couples to obtain a marriage license Monday evening, rushed outside the courthouse in Beverly Hills for their Jewish wedding ceremony. There, they were greeted by a crowd of family, friends, supporters -- and a few opponents protesting the same-sex marriages with signs reading "repent."

"It's not about us," Tyler said. "It's about the entire movement that helped make this day possible."

Critics of the ruling have talked about staging protests against same-sex marriages this week.

Opponents say they've collected enough signatures to call for a statewide vote on a constitutional amendment that would define marriage as between a man and woman. The California secretary of state must verify the signatures before a November vote can be held on the proposed amendment.

Though the law affects only California, it has national implications. "Because we're in a presidential campaign right now, it's going to be a real flash point for the electorate to come together and say this really matters to us," said Charmaine Yoest of the Family Research Council, a conservative Christian group based in Washington that opposes gay marriage.

Meanwhile, the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, California, issued a statement on behalf of seven bishops Monday, saying the Catholic Church "cannot approve of redefining marriage."

Marriage "has a unique place in God's creation, joining a man and a woman in a committed relationship in order to nurture and support the new life for which marriage is intended," the statement said. "The meaning of marriage is deeply rooted in history and culture, and has been shaped considerably by Christian tradition. Its meaning is given, not constructed."
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Newsom said the issue "is about civil marriages, not about religious marriages. ... We're not telling religious institutions what to do. They can continue to do what they've done."

In the May 15 ruling, the California Supreme Court struck down the state's ban on same-sex marriage as unconstitutional. The ruling surprised legal experts because the court has a conservative reputation. Six of its seven judges are Republican appointees.
There's only one thing to say about this: Let there be many more to come!

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:55 pm
by Sonic Glitch
Agreed.

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:15 am
by Teaos
About time.

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:10 am
by Mikey
Yep. Let them all suffer like the rest of us!

Just kidding. I love my wife.

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:33 am
by Thorin
Bride and Groom to be replaced by Partner A and Partner B? I sense arguments! I think they should have stuck with Bride and Groom :wink:

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:49 am
by Mikey
Or groom and groom... or *bites knuckles to prevent uttering needlessly un-PC slur*

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 1:51 am
by Aaron
Thorin wrote:Bride and Groom to be replaced by Partner A and Partner B? I sense arguments! I think they should have stuck with Bride and Groom :wink:
Or groom/groom, bride/bride which seems popular here.

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:04 pm
by Duskofdead
Aren't bride and groom basically horse breeding terms, anyway?

<--- wouldn't care if they fell into disuse generally.

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:31 pm
by Mikey
Duskofdead wrote:Aren't bride and groom basically horse breeding terms, anyway?

<--- wouldn't care if they fell into disuse generally.
If so, then they are antiquated, and have become colloquially defined by their general marriage-based contexts.

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:39 pm
by Duskofdead
Mikey wrote:
Duskofdead wrote:Aren't bride and groom basically horse breeding terms, anyway?

<--- wouldn't care if they fell into disuse generally.
If so, then they are antiquated, and have become colloquially defined by their general marriage-based contexts.
I think bridge and groom are on their way to becoming antiquated. I have plenty of friends in heterosexual relationships or live-in relationships/engagements who use the term partner or S.O. It is becoming very common in the professional realm to use those terms instead of girlfriend, wife etc. and at least to me it seems to be spreading to informal talk as well.

And really, is the term groom EVER used outside of a marriage day? It's been pretty antiquated for awhile.

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:18 pm
by Aaron
Duskofdead wrote:
I think bridge and groom are on their way to becoming antiquated. I have plenty of friends in heterosexual relationships or live-in relationships/engagements who use the term partner or S.O. It is becoming very common in the professional realm to use those terms instead of girlfriend, wife etc. and at least to me it seems to be spreading to informal talk as well.
We use wife/husband and we'll do it to the grave! Your either with us or with the PC weenies!

Seriously though, we're used to husband/wife (as I guess that's what we grew up with) so we'll probably keep using it.

And really, is the term groom EVER used outside of a marriage day? It's been pretty antiquated for awhile.
Not that I know of, I only ever hear it in regards to an actual wedding party.

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:57 pm
by Reliant121
Seriously is about time this happened. Yay for gay marriage!

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:33 pm
by Mikey
Duskofdead wrote:I think bridge and groom are on their way to becoming antiquated. I have plenty of friends in heterosexual relationships or live-in relationships/engagements who use the term partner or S.O. It is becoming very common in the professional realm to use those terms instead of girlfriend, wife etc. and at least to me it seems to be spreading to informal talk as well.

And really, is the term groom EVER used outside of a marriage day? It's been pretty antiquated for awhile.
Well we actually were talking about the terms "bride" and "groom" being used on the wedding day, so OK on that point. And partner is often used for non-marriage relationships, but husband and wife are still used very commonly for, well, husbands and wives.

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:10 pm
by stitch626
And really, is the term groom EVER used outside of a marriage day? It's been pretty antiquated for awhile.
Actually it is used quite often. You groom a pet. Another word for clean.

Re: George Takei (Sulu) Weds

Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:13 pm
by Sonic Glitch
Mikey wrote: but husband and wife are still used very commonly for, well, husbands and wives.
Wierd...who'da thunk it eh? :-D