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McCains VP?

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 3:49 am
by Teaos
Who do you think McCain will pick as his Vice President?

You can also give us who you think Obama will but that isnt nearly as important.

The reason McCains VP is so important is because there is a damn good shance he unlike most presidents lattly has a damn good chance of dying in the next 4 years.

I'm not really sure, Romney was a dick during the campaign and seems to have burned a few bridges, Huckabee I think is to extreme for McCain.

Honestly I have no idea for this one. Romney would make the most sense probably but I dont see it happening.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:03 am
by sunnyside
I'm thinking he should, if possible, play a counter to the democratic winner.

Right now I'm thinking he should get a black person. I do wish there were more of them in the Republican party.

Barring that I'd like to see someone rock solid on economic issues. Like Romney, without all the other stuff.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:05 am
by Teaos
God if McCain got Colin Powell as VP he's already won... but that will never happen.

I dislike the idea of playing the race card.

I think to many people, especially swing voters will see it as a cheap move to get votes.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:07 am
by Monroe
Huckabee or Romney are his best choices because they can unite the Republican base. My guess is Huckabee cause he too can get young people motivated. Huckabee also is really hard to hate. He's a nice guy. Just with slightly crazy views.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:09 am
by Teaos
Huckabee also is really hard to hate.
I hate him.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:14 am
by Monroe
I can't find myself hating him. Disagreeing sure but he's a friendly guy.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:23 am
by sunnyside
Monroe wrote: Just with slightly crazy views.
And the crazy views would hurt a lot. He can't win with someone like Huck or Ron Paul. They appeal greatly to small groups of people, but not to people as a whole, and not to swing voters.

Romney might fly, but he has too many issues.

I suppose McCain is in a bit of a rough spot actually. VPs are generally taken from the house, senate, another running mate, a senior cabinet mamber or a govenor.

However the current cabinet members risk a politically harmful Bush taint. As might many mmebers of the house and senate. Limiting his options.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 4:55 am
by Duskofdead
Right now I'm thinking he should get a black person. I do wish there were more of them in the Republican party.
Is that the only reason you'd want them in? To be tokens?

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 5:16 am
by sunnyside
No, I really just wish blacks were a larger part of the Republican party.

I think the disparitysends a bad message, and reduces their ability to address the African American community without seeming like people who really don't care about them.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:56 am
by Duskofdead
sunnyside wrote:No, I really just wish blacks were a larger part of the Republican party.

I think the disparitysends a bad message, and reduces their ability to address the African American community without seeming like people who really don't care about them.
I think if you asked African-Americans, they'd say that's precisely what the situation is.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:09 am
by sunnyside
Duskofdead wrote: I think if you asked African-Americans, they'd say that's precisely what the situation is.
Either way the solution is to have more African Americans in the party. I think they're moving in the right direction at least with Colin and Condi.

And I really wish Bush hadn't messed those two up. Either one, free from the Bush crap, would make a powerhouse running mate for McCain. But both are sort of damaged goods right now, as far as public opinion goes.

The problem being that there isn't really anybody else with the right sort of experience out there that is African American for McCain to tap. They've got some Asian Americans but I think they weren't born in the US.

However the Republicans do have a fair sized selection of women who could be VP! McCain could go that route.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:12 am
by Duskofdead
Well I think African Americans are pretty cognizant of the fact that the party just seems to want some really elite token black members to disproprotionately show on stage, pan the camera towards at conventions, and appoint to offices to appear diverse. So until the party seems more interested in issues of race, inequality and poverty in the U.S., I wouldn't hold my breath about more joining, unless they have oil tankers named after them.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:17 am
by Teaos
I think picking someone just to be a token will do more harm than good in the current climate.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:23 am
by sunnyside
Teaos wrote:I think picking someone just to be a token will do more harm than good in the current climate.
Well to be honest I think there really isn't a non Bush tainted African American republican really in the right position to be a VP without being a token, so I suppose I agree.

But there are women at least that could be qualified.

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:44 am
by Teaos
I don't think Colin is tainted. He could be a huge asset to McCain. Hell I'd like to see Colin as president but that wont happen.