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George Lucas is probably pissed that his prequels will never achieve this much fame as STXI will.

He's also pissed that Trek's doing a better prequel than he did.

There is an article in the newspaper today about Riverside, Iowa, hoping to attract tourism as the birthplace of Kirk. Now I have heard of this town before but... has anyone told them that in ST:XI Kirk is born in a shuttle? They're gonna be so pissed. Also, from what we see, it doesn't look like this Kirk had a very happy childhood in Iowa.

Does anyone know if Kirk's birthplace is canonical? I ask because in ST:XI, his birth occurs not long after Nero arrives, altering the timeline. Presumably his father and pregnant mother would have been aboard the USS Kelvin in the original timeline too. Nero's attack could have made his mother go into labour prematurely, I suppose. In the original timeline they could've just strolled back to Earth and arrived in Iowa in plenty of time.

These are the sorts of things which play on my mind on public transport in the mornings.

CaptainQuantum wrote:There is an article in the newspaper today about Riverside, Iowa, hoping to attract tourism as the birthplace of Kirk. Now I have heard of this town before but... has anyone told them that in ST:XI Kirk is born in a shuttle? They're gonna be so pissed. Also, from what we see, it doesn't look like this Kirk had a very happy childhood in Iowa.

Does anyone know if Kirk's birthplace is canonical? I ask because in ST:XI, his birth occurs not long after Nero arrives, altering the timeline. Presumably his father and pregnant mother would have been aboard the USS Kelvin in the original timeline too. Nero's attack could have made his mother go into labour prematurely, I suppose. In the original timeline they could've just strolled back to Earth and arrived in Iowa in plenty of time.

These are the sorts of things which play on my mind on public transport in the mornings.

I'm curious CaptainQuantum (or 'Q' for short...)

I know you've probably not seen the film enough times to be able to remember every detail but would you say, on any level you could draw any sort of relationship from ENT at all? Maybe not directly, like a character saying "Yes, in 2152 when Captain Archer was commanding the NX01 etc etc" but an open statement that if you wanted to, you could read ENT canon in it? Having said that though, I get the impression that it's all based on a variation of original TOS canon and nothing else...

CaptainQuantum wrote:...Does anyone know if Kirk's birthplace is canonical?...

Well I don't know about that but I have canon evidence that his full birth name is James R Kirk...

thelordharry wrote:I know you've probably not seen the film enough times to be able to remember every detail but would you say, on any level you could draw any sort of relationship from ENT at all? Maybe not directly, like a character saying "Yes, in 2152 when Captain Archer was commanding the NX01 etc etc" but an open statement that if you wanted to, you could read ENT canon in it? Having said that though, I get the impression that it's all based on a variation of original TOS canon and nothing else...

I know they mention an Admiral Archer, but that's the extent, so far as I know.

Hopefully Admiral Archer was put in charge of important work, like ensuring each starship receives its correct allotment of potatoes and toilet paper.

Knowing Starfleet, they probably made him the Academy combat instructor...

"And when an alien swings at you make sure that you lean into the punch and lead with your chin."

Don't you be mean to Admiral Johnny Archer

Hopefully Admiral Archer was put in charge of important work, like ensuring each starship receives its correct allotment of potatoes and toilet paper.

Hell, even that's too good for him. Need I remind you of how he couldn't even organise getting the fucking ship's supplies onboard in the first ep? A man of many talents he is not.

They have one starship, ONE. How can you mess up the supply requests when only one person is requesting supplies?

Ya know though, if Archer was in charge of training security personnel that could explain some things.

They have one starship, ONE. How can you mess up the supply requests when only one person is requesting supplies?

I know. It's one hell of an impressive achievement to suck so heavily.

Ya know, if all you ever watched of Enterprise was the first half of the first season you'd be absolutely convinced that the Vulcans were right, humans had no business in space.

By the end of the fourth season you knew they were right.

oh oh oh, I got one. Are there any orbital shots of Earth showing the US and there's a big score all the way down Florida?