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The metaphasic radiation was no more a natural part of the Ba'ku species' existence than a life support machine - it was sustaining a population that was at best barely sufficent to survive otherwise.

It was - but after 300 years, I'd easily call it an inherent part of their day-to-day lives.

If I'd lived with a life support machine for 300 years, and it had been an inherent part of the lives of at least one or two generations that every single person had one, then yes. The life support would be a natural part of the culture.

Why are the Ba'ku necessarily being deprived of the radiation if they're moved? Surely the UFP can supply them with it, just like they can supply their own people. Therefore there'd be no loss of lifespan for them.

Rochey wrote:Why are the Ba'ku necessarily being deprived of the radiation if they're moved? Surely the UFP can supply them with it, just like they can supply their own people. Therefore there'd be no loss of lifespan for them.

The UFP's initial treatment of them clearly indicates that the Ba'ku aren't Fed citizens. Now, if the UFP was willing to kidnap them and steal their planet, why should we think that the same UFP would go to any expense to extend teh benefits of that stlen radiation to them?

If they're that uncaring about keeping the Ba'ku alive, why not just nuke the site from orbit?
They obviously cared enough that they were willing to undertake the time and expense of moving them all in secret.

Rochey wrote:If they're that uncaring about keeping the Ba'ku alive, why not just nuke the site from orbit?
They obviously cared enough that they were willing to undertake the time and expense of moving them all in secret.

Because the "good guys" (the Federation) are only allowed to be shown as slightly immoral in American entertainment in the 90s as opposed to completely immoral? I'm with Mikey on this issue by the way.

me,myself and I wrote:Because the "good guys" (the Federation) are only allowed to be shown as slightly immoral in American entertainment in the 90s as opposed to completely immoral?

Then why were they depicted as genocidal in "Homeward"?

Ah, but that's the good type of genocide.

So, you're saying that they were willing to dupe and kidnap the Ba'ku, and steal their planet (seriously affecting the Ba'ku's on lifespans, BTW) because the Ba'ku's well-being was their first priority?

Captain Seafort wrote:

me,myself and I wrote:Because the "good guys" (the Federation) are only allowed to be shown as slightly immoral in American entertainment in the 90s as opposed to completely immoral?

Then why were they depicted as genocidal in "Homeward"?

Because it wasn't obvious? I haven't seen that episode in a while so I don't recall the specifics. Was that the one with Worfs stepbrother?

So, you're saying that they were willing to dupe and kidnap the Ba'ku, and steal their planet (seriously affecting the Ba'ku's on lifespans, BTW) because the Ba'ku's well-being was their first priority?

No, they were willing to dupe and kidnap the Ba'ku and steal their planet because it could help billions, if not trillions, of people. My point was that they also had no interest in harming the Ba'ku, and were obviously interested in keeping them alive.

So...out of curiousity, would you support the government if it demolished my street, to put in a new motorway? us lot have no home, but the masses get places faster. Is that right?

Reliant121 wrote:So...out of curiousity, would you support the government if it demolished my street, to put in a new motorway? us lot have no home, but the masses get places faster. Is that right?

For a new motorway, no, for a new hospital I would.

And where Am i to go? i have nowhere to go. Because of blood condition, i cant live on the streets. my family has nowhere to put us up. So i am to die? You would kill one, you save a hundred? I suppose its personal choice, but I dont have the guts to do that.