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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:03 pm
by sunnyside
At first I figured it was just a Kosovo related joke. But maybe it isn't
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/12/21/5946/
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:27 pm
by Monroe
o.O Speak of the devil.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:31 pm
by Monroe
oh wow old article, look at the date. And we still haven't heard anything about this in over two months? lol
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 2:50 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
That's cool
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 3:32 pm
by Mikey
Hmmm. I wonder if I get any status if I can find my wife's BIA number...
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:40 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I'm a bit behind with the news but it seems the Lakota are trying to exceed from the US nation and take big chunks of Dakota and surrounding land with them. Washington hasn't kept its side of the treaties so they've decided enough is enough and are planning to mount legal challenges to the land that was originally given to them in treaties in 1850.
That's just..........
Words defy the stupidity of doing that. At best, the US will recognise their independance (good luck with that!), and this small nation will pretty much collapse financialy. At worst, the US recognises it's independance.....and then invades.
Given that I haven't heard anything about this before, should I assume they were just ignored?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 4:46 pm
by Captain Seafort
I remember hearing something about this a few months ago. The "secessionists" were a minor protest group who were ignored by pretty much everyone - including the Lakota leadership.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 5:55 pm
by Monroe
The guy did lose his presidential bid.
There's seperatists in a lot of nations. Montana, Lakota surprisingly not in the south far as I know for the US. Lot of places in Russia, hell even northern Spain has a seperatist group.
I wouldn't expect to hear anymore about this unless they declare war on the US. Hell even Iran or Venezuala didn't recognize them.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:07 pm
by Captain Seafort
Everyone's got separatists to some extent - Cornwall and Scotland spring to mind here, the Basques in northern Spain and southern France, Quebec, South Ossetia in Georgia, Chechnya, Western Sahara, and those are just the ones off the top of my head. The list is endless. Most of them are small groups who no-one pays any attention to (like this bunch of Lakota) while others are serious trouble.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 6:12 pm
by Mikey
That's exactly what seems to have happened with this group of Lakota Sioux. Just because the head of the separatist movement was loud, doesn't mean that he had the support of the bulk of the Lakota Sioux.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:14 pm
by sunnyside
Captain Seafort wrote: Most of them are small groups who no-one pays any attention to (like this bunch of Lakota) while others are serious trouble.
Out of curiosity what are the Irish considered to be?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 7:19 pm
by Captain Seafort
sunnyside wrote:Out of curiosity what are the Irish considered to be?
I'm discounting the Troubles partially because, fingers crossed, they're over, and partially because the Provos' aim wasn't secession but unification with the Republic.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 8:29 pm
by Graham Kennedy
sunnyside wrote:Captain Seafort wrote: Most of them are small groups who no-one pays any attention to (like this bunch of Lakota) while others are serious trouble.
Out of curiosity what are the Irish considered to be?
Well the Irish are considered to be foreigners. The
Northern Irish are considered to be a problem solved.
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:11 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Out of curiosity what are the Irish considered to be?
Well, we don't really have trouble with people trying to get rid of parts of our country. We just have problems with terrorists trying to
add places to our country.
A few decades ago, the Irish Republican Army was a pretty serious threat up in the North. Lately, though, it's thankfully died down, and we just have to listen to Sinn Féinn (the IRA's political wing) bitching about things that no one gives a damn about.
Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 3:22 pm
by Deepcrush
I hate to have to do this but, this kinda relates to the topic
I'm a bit behind with the news but it seems the Lakota are trying to exceed from the US nation and take big chunks of Dakota and surrounding land with them. Washington hasn't kept its side of the treaties so they've decided enough is enough and are planning to mount legal challenges to the land that was originally given to them in treaties in 1850.
They may get a huge chunk of property but the courts have blocked the request thus far for them to seperate from the US.