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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:40 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Ah, mass stupidity. Got it.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:30 pm
by Mikey
Wait... the Tholians had THAT kind of power, and were then reduced to a handful of refugees by a SLAVE REVOLT? Even Kirk Douglas wasn't able to do that.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:36 pm
by Teaos
If your weapons dont work anymore your kinda screwed.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:39 pm
by Mikey
But that should be reciprocal - the Tholians should have been just as able to disable their opponents' weapons.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:40 pm
by Teaos
I don't know what the other guys used. I'll see if i can find the articles I read.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:47 pm
by Teaos
The Tholians appear in the alternate Star Fleet Universe as a significant race. In this universe, they are not native to this galaxy, originating in M81, or Bode's Galaxy. The Tholian Holdfast in the Milky Way is a remnant of the once-mighty Tholian Will, an empire that once ruled their entire Home Galaxy. However, one of their subject races, the insectoid Seltorians, developed the technology to break Tholian webs, and used it to overthrow their masters. Some of the surviving Tholians fled to this galaxy, and upon arriving in Y79 (Y1 being the date of first contact between Earth and Vulcan in that universe) claimed an area of Klingon territory rimward of Federation space. (This area had originally been used as the staging post for a planned Klingon invasion of Romulan space - but the Tholian arrival thwarted these efforts.) The Tholians fiercely defended their enclave, repelling all Klingon attempts to retake it. Their "home planet" in this galaxy is a miniature Dyson sphere (wrapped around a relatively small artificial 'star') that, in a remarkable feat of engineering, they managed to bring with them from M81. They are officially neutral, but Klingon hostility sometimes forces them into co-belligerence with the Federation.
Memory Alpha but thats not where I got it from originally. Think it was an editorial written by someone.
ENT has obviously screwed with the arrival time.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:58 pm
by Captain Seafort
Ah, I've heard of this game. While it bears many similarities to Trek, it's best described as an alternate universe, based loosly around Franz Joseph's Star Fleet Technical Manual, that is distinctly separate from the Trek universe.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:07 pm
by Mikey
Weird. Well-developed, but weird. And the bit about moving a Dyson Shell intergalactically defies suspension of disbelief.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:09 pm
by Teaos
I find it interesting enough and plausable enough to consider it as possible canon. Meaning I wouldnt mind if it was and will consider it as what they could be like since we dont know anything about them.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:12 pm
by Mikey
The thing that gets me about the Dyson Shell bit is this: if they were able to do that, they should have the ability to completely dominate the quadrant if not the whole galaxy.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:14 pm
by Teaos
They just got their arse's handed to them and ran away from home. They might not be in a fighting mood right now. According to that they havent been here that long either.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:17 pm
by Captain Seafort
Even the Dyson Shell bit is unnecessary - the very fact that they're capable of intergalactic travel shows that either they're got the speed to strike anywhere in the Federation with impunity, or their ships are far tougher than anything any of the other powers have. Either way, they should by the dominant power of the quadrant, if not the galaxy.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:19 pm
by Mikey
Pretty much my thoughts.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:21 pm
by Teaos
They might not have transwarp. They may have used something like the Catapult seen in Voyager to jump Galaxys. They certinly dont seem to be that fast.
Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:22 pm
by Mikey
That's true, but then they should have been able to recreate the catapult (or whatever) once they got here.