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Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:04 am
by thelordharry
IanKennedy wrote:...At the end of the film the button is pressed and everything goes back to normal...
Geordi La Forge wrote:
Waaaaaaaaaaaaait a minute!
Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 12:08 am
by Monroe
Aren't there cases in Trek where time traveling doesn't create alternate universes but completes a time loop? I remember one of the few episodes of DS9 I saw the Temporal guys talk about how captains always think they're filling a predestined time loop out.
I'm the kind of guy who likes the simplest explanation and usually hates time traveling in the first place. Isn't it possible that the Borg in ENT are a time loop? For that matter couldn't the Temporal Cold War?
Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:18 pm
by IntrepidPrincess
I tend to feel that Nero going back in time created a whole ripple effect both ways on the timeline. (I apologize if this has already been said, I didn't see it anywhere)
Think about this: Nero goes back. we've already seen slight differences 25 years after his arrival, so by the time the E-E came around (if it still did at the same time) I would imagine it would be much more different.
then the borg might never go back, and who knows what little itsy bitsy things will affect the timeline by the time of ENT. if the borg didn't go back it would at least change the "borg in the arctic" episode.
that accounts for most if not all differences in Abramsverse from Geneverse 'before' Nero arrives.
(sorry for the big post)
Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:35 pm
by stitch626
(sorry for the big post)
Trust me, your nowhere near a big post.
Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:37 pm
by Angharrad
hey stitch, love the new av.
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Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:38 pm
by stitch626
You noticed eh.
Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:38 am
by Teaos
The orginal wasnt it?
Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:34 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Aye, that was his first one.
Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:50 pm
by Angharrad
Rochey wrote:Aye, that was his first one.
I wasn't here then.
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Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:06 am
by Deepcrush
Royal_Foxx wrote:Rochey wrote:Aye, that was his first one.
I wasn't here then.
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Not everyone falls to hell at the same time...
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Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:18 am
by Foxfyre
Deepcrush wrote:Royal_Foxx wrote:Rochey wrote:Aye, that was his first one.
I wasn't here then.
![Sad :(](./images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
Not everyone falls to hell at the same time...
![happydevil :happydevil:](./images/smilies/devil-smiley-037.gif)
some even escape for a time and then fall back in!
As for the timeline, IntrepidPrincess made a good point, and one that will bake your brain trying to wrap around it. Nero comes through, attacks the Kelvin this starts SF down the path of arming up more effectivly, By the time we get to the E-E SF is more powerfull and might be able to stop the borg well before they reach Earth preventing the sphere from going back in time. However I do hope that is not the case would rather have the new timeline be a split from the prime one at the attack on the kelvin rather than from First contact.
Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:10 am
by Mark
GrahamKennedy wrote:The mention of "Admiral Archer's prize beagle" indicates that at least SOME version of Ent is part of this timeline.
Only season four. Since the timeline reset itself in season three.
Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:17 am
by Foxfyre
Oh so? S3 is still there the Enterprise was still heavly damaged, SF and the Vulcans had a hearing about Archer and the ship in the Expanse.
Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 12:35 am
by Mark
Look.......I'm clinging to that as an excuse for seasons one and two. Don't take that away from me
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Re: You know what this means...
Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:04 am
by steamrunner
Mark wrote:Look.......I'm clinging to that as an excuse for seasons one and two. Don't take that away from me
![Mr. Green :mrgreen:](./images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
ANY excuse for seasons on and two are better than nothing...
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