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Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:23 pm
by Captain Seafort
Captain Picard's Hair wrote:These people are living in a fantasy world.
It took you this long to realise that? McCain was the Republican party's last hope to revert to something more sensible. Not only did the bugger that up, but they've got their collective head in the sand as to why they buggered it up. Because of that, the worst case scenario is that Obama's landslide is the begining of the end of democracy in the US.

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:26 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
Captain Seafort wrote:It took you this long to realise that?
Oh, I've been agog at GOP politics for a while; this just takes the cake.

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:28 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Captain Picard's Hair wrote:...These people are living in a fantasy world.
Yeah, and it's not even the kind with naked centerfolds bouncing around on trampolines... :?

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:29 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
Tsukiyumi wrote:
Captain Picard's Hair wrote:...These people are living in a fantasy world.
Yeah, and it's not even the kind with naked centerfolds bouncing around on trampolines... :?
In their fantasy world, naked centerfolds are damned to all eternity in Hell. Are these people human?

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:30 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I'm just thinking, with the far-right convinced that the reason they lost was that they weren't far enough to the right, could we see the Republican party eventualy splitting between the far-right and the more moderate party members?

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:31 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
I don't recall where, but I have heard that theory espoused elsewhere.

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:33 pm
by Grundig
CNN.com wrote:Hours after John McCain and Sarah Palin conceded defeat to Barack Obama, the Alaska governor told CNN she can't imagine running for the top job herself in 2012.

"Right now I cannot even imagine running for national office in 2012," she told CNN's Dana Bash. "When I say that, of course, coming on the heels of an outcome that I did not anticipate and had not hoped for. But this being a chapter now that is closed and realizing that it is a time to unite and all Americans need to get together and help with this new administration being ushered in."
Someone needs to teach this woman about sentence fragments.

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:34 pm
by Grundig
We need a moderate party here. Not just left or right.

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:36 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I agree. I've no idea how you lot run a country properly with just two parties that are polar opposites of each other.

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:37 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
Rochey wrote:I agree. I've no idea how you lot run a country properly with just two parties that are polar opposites of each other.
Wait... are you implying that this country has been run properly of late? Are you feeling OK?

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:38 pm
by Grundig
:D

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:39 pm
by Sionnach Glic
I wrote:I agree. I've no idea how you lot run a country properly with just two parties that are polar opposites of each other
Oh yes, I forgot, you don't. :P

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:49 pm
by Captain Seafort
Grundig wrote:We need a moderate party here. Not just left or right.
Your problem isn't the lack of moderate parties - you've got at least one in the Democrats. The problem is the fact that the entire political spectrum is skewed - it's a pretty much continuous variation from the centre-right round to the far right. To compare, the Tories are considered the right wing of the main political spectrum, and Britain is much further right than most of Europe. In the US, however, they'd almost certainly be considered extreme left wing.

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:54 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Aye, that's a rather important fact to remember. Even Obama, who's been attacked as a socialist, is still farther to the right than the majority of the world's politicians.
From the perspective of most Europeans, the choice in the US elections isn't "do I want the left-wing guy or the right-wing guy to win". It's "do I want the right wing guy or the theocratic guy to win".

Re: Call the US election

Posted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 10:57 pm
by Lt. Staplic
yay reactionaries.

This is why I hate political spectrums, and parties and other forms of association and aphiliation. I'd much rather have a here's A's issues and plans, here's B's issues and plans, pick which ones better.