Starbolt's Pride Comment thread

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri May 09, 2008 6:40 pm

Guys, I'm noticing a sheer lack of posts going on! Why's no one posting anything in the story thread?

Blackstar the Chakat · Fri May 09, 2008 6:57 pm

Well, I was busy with the Daystrom RPG but Thorin's being a selfish jerk so I guess I'll come up with something here this weekend

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri May 09, 2008 7:16 pm

Its not selfish to continue holding a position he was apointed in the beginning. The only one being selfish in this case is the one expecting people to disregard long-established material simply to allow a character to remain relevant.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Fri May 09, 2008 7:16 pm

Lets calm down the Blackstar Vs. Thorin thing...I dont think intermember wars are necessary

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri May 09, 2008 7:18 pm

As you wish.

Reliant121 · Post by **Reliant121** » Fri May 09, 2008 7:43 pm

hmmz? i didnt know you had taken sides? i merely think its as pointless as the bridge on the TOP of the E-D

Blackstar the Chakat · Fri May 09, 2008 7:52 pm

As a general rule Rochey always takes the stronger side and/or the side against me

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Fri May 09, 2008 7:54 pm

ChakatBlackstar wrote:As a general rule Rochey always takes the stronger side and/or the side against me

Doesn't that imply that you are always on the weaker side. I wonder why that is?

Blackstar the Chakat · Fri May 09, 2008 7:57 pm

Thorin wrote:
ChakatBlackstar wrote:As a general rule Rochey always takes the stronger side and/or the side against me
Doesn't that imply that you are always on the weaker side. I wonder why that is?

What? it's not enough that you have to mess with my Daystorm character, you have to mess with my RPG too?

Duskofdead · Post by **Duskofdead** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:07 pm

Sounds like everyone needs a compromise. Rochey, Thorin, I have no dog in this fight... hell I only even started browsing these forums cause it's been slow and a lot of the regs seem to be on limited time and not posting as much. But I think it sounds like you guys are getting too bent on a fine-point principle of being right and then being totally inflexible. Rochey, I like ya but I know darn well that you do this now and again.

For whatever it's worth, my two cents as an outsider: it's clear Blackstar and Thorin don't get along. Saying they have to work closely together, or more accurately, that shi has to be a subordinate to Thorin in order to have a fun place in the RP, or else kill your character, is not exactly compromising or being flexible. Nor honestly is it reasonable at all. Nor is it merely a "small issue" or a "made up issue" when you have both acknowledged that what shi is doing is trying to keep hir character "relevant." It's an RP. If your character is totally irrelevant there is absolutely no point nor fun in being part of the RP.

It's a game... it should be fun for everyone. I don't know if you two are pigeonholing Blackstar into an untenable role in the RP simply because you do not like hir, or if you're simply being totally inflexible. But I know that if I was told you have an irrelevant role in the RP, shut up and like it, if you don't like it that's your personal problem, I'd say screw it and quit. I'm not sure how that would be good for the RP but that seems to be the direction this argument is forcing to a head.

My two cents. Like I said I'm not in this RP, nor from how it looks would I enjoy being part of it. I just think you guys should show more flexibility to accomodate everyone who wants to participate, instead of putting the players you don't like in a dark cellar and arguing they should stay there and stop complaining about it, or else take orders from another player they clearly wouldn't have any fun RP'ing under.

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:10 pm

ChakatBlackstar wrote:
Thorin wrote:
ChakatBlackstar wrote:As a general rule Rochey always takes the stronger side and/or the side against me
Doesn't that imply that you are always on the weaker side. I wonder why that is?
What? it's not enough that you have to mess with my Daystorm character, you have to mess with my RPG too?

I've not touched your character. You're the one trying to out my character of tactical so you can take over.

Duskofdead, just because me and Rochey 'appear' to be ganging up on Blackstar doesn't mean we are. I don't mind him - he's the one with the problem with me - take a look at his posts for goodness sake! His character is the one trying to take over mine. He is the one who has made up a very poor backstory if he intended to join the crew. He is the one who wants to take over an established role. And he is the one who has problems reporting to my character because he has a personal problem with me.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:27 pm

As a general rule Rochey always takes the stronger side and/or the side against me

As I've said in the other thread, if I'm on the stronger side it's because I've held that position in the first place.
As for the "side against me" bit, now you're just getting paranoid.

What? it's not enough that you have to mess with my Daystorm character, you have to mess with my RPG too?

You are the one who brought this up here, Blackstar. Drop the innocence abused act.

Dusk:
You're correct in all you've said, pretty much. The problem, I think, is that you haven't followed the conflict from the beginning. Let me give you a rundown:
-Thorin took over the post of Tactical Officer in the Daystrom RPG.
-Thorin then dropped out for a short while when things moved in a different direction that didn't involve him.
-After a few months he then came back and re-took control of his former post, which no one had touched or interfered with. No one complained at this, as no one had a problem initialy.
-Blackstar's character reached a problem: the character's purpose for being on the ship was so narrowly defined, that once she had completed that purpose she no longer had a purpose on the ship.
-Blackstar decided to create a reason to stay there by suggesting she take control of a department on the ship.
-Everyone else in the RPG points out that she can't, as Thorin already controls that department.
-Blackstar bitches about how selfish and unfair Thorin is for continuing to do his job, and how much of an asshole I am for siding with Thorin.

And that's where we are now. Thorin has no problem with Blackstar, nor have I. It's Blackstar who has the problem here, calling Thorin a "snot-nosed brat" and saying that shi hopes his character dies and generaly being unreasonable, ignoring suggestions to simply create another character or find a different position to take over.

Still, I must commend your bravery for stepping selflessly into the middle of a heated argument. For this bravery, I hereby award you the status of DITL Diplomat. You've earned it.

Blackstar the Chakat · Fri May 09, 2008 8:27 pm

Thorin, are you paying one damn bit of attention to what I'm talking about?

And he is the one who has problems reporting to my character because he has a personal problem with me.

This for example, is way wrong. While I have a problem with your attitude the problem I have with my character reporting to yours is that she has a higher rank then your character.

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Fri May 09, 2008 8:31 pm

ChakatBlackstar wrote: This for example, is way wrong. While I have a problem with your attitude the problem I have with my character reporting to yours is that she has a higher rank then your character.

Are you lying on purpose?

I wrote: Out of story you've got a problem with being answerable to me if you did join tactical

To which you replied: Gee, did you figure that out all by yourself did you?

You also said you had problems reporting to a snotty nosed brat - me - not my character. That's personal.

Now your only argument is that your character has a higher rank. Well - that's your fault. You made your character with a high rank, you can remake it with a lower one.

Blackstar the Chakat · Fri May 09, 2008 8:36 pm

As for the "side against me" bit, now you're just getting paranoid

Of coarse I'm paranoid you're always siding against me.

You are the one who brought this up here, Blackstar. Drop the innocence abused act.

All I said was that I had been busy with that. He had no reason to bring it in here.

Blackstar bitches about how selfish and unfair Thorin is for continuing to do his job, and how much of an asshole I am for siding with Thorin.

All I want is control over a few fighters. I even suggested bringing in a new squad that would be under my direct command and he can keep the original pilots. He won't even consider letting me command *his* fighters because they're automatically his because he's in charge of ship defense.