Impuls speed how fast is it.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:44 pm

And it was pointed out that the TM isn't canon.

Bryan Moore · Post by **Bryan Moore** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:04 pm

Terribly sorry, but I thought TNG TM was canon... thus my confusion. Apologies.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:50 pm

Yeah, I made the same mistake myself before. The only thing that's canon in Trek is the show itself.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 7:57 pm

The problem with the TM is that for a long time I think it was considered canon, and it was only fairly recently (ie the last five years or so) that it was officially stated that only filmed Trek was canon. The same was true of Jeri Taylor's Voyager novels - "Mosaic" and "Pathfinder".

Tiberius · Post by **Tiberius** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:14 pm

But the canon episodes were written with the position of full impulse being .25c. So even if the claim itself is not canon, it does become canon indirectly.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:18 pm

No it doesn't - unless it's specifically stated in an episode that maximum impulse is 0.25 c, then it is non-canon.

Tiberius · Post by **Tiberius** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:25 pm

Then it's not canon that there is a toilet on the bridge. So where does that door on the left at the back go? Nowhere?

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:27 pm

A turbolift? A corridor? The loo? Canonically it could be any of those, that's where our speculation comes in.

Blackstar the Chakat · Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:28 pm

You know, they've never strictly mentioned if ships have a bathroom. They've had showers, but they've never shown a toilet on screen.

kostmayer · Post by **kostmayer** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:21 am

Do the TNG uniforms have flys/zippers?

Post by **Mikey** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 1:24 am

Maybe the unis work like the stillsuits from Dune.

mlsnoopy · Post by **mlsnoopy** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:32 am

The old ones maybe but the newones are made from two parts.

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 2:46 pm

Captain Seafort wrote:And it was pointed out that the TM isn't canon.

Says who? It's part of the ST franchise.
I don't really think it's up to you to decide whether something is canon or not.

At what speed does reletivity become a problem or become noticable? That's probably the full impulse speed under normal circumstances.

At 1/4 c, you will 'move' through time 3% 'quicker' than at a stop. So for every year of someone at a standstill, you will (from the perspective of the person at a standstill) experience 11 more days.
At 3/4 c, you will experience (to someone at a standstill observing on) to have lived for a further 51% of time. So in year, that's a whole 6 more months you seemed to have lived.

Travelling at 0.9 c, you will experience 294% more time to someone looking on. Travelling at c, you will experience infinite more time to someone looking on - ie you are at the end of the universe.

Post by **Captain Seafort** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:01 pm

Thorin wrote:Says who? It's part of the ST franchise.
I don't really think it's up to you to decide whether something is canon or not.

Says EASfor one:

EAS wrote:Reference books Books are non-canon because of their printed nature, even those officially released by Paramount via Pocket Books and with people working on the show as authors.

Also, the official site:

As a rule of thumb, the events that take place within the live-action episodes and movies are canon, or official Star Trek facts.

Thorin · Post by **Thorin** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:28 pm

According to you, neither of those are canon, and so their definitions of Star Trek canon are invalid.

Oh the vicious circle