Which, compared to the ones I listed, achieved fuck-all. Being a great ship is about far more than simply being great engineering.Mikey wrote:All our great ships? I just mentioned two Iowa-classes and an Essex-class which I have visited in my lifetime.
Not quite a mission kill....
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Yeah, the Intrepid wasn't involved in much at all. 

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To be fair, CV6 Enterprise was an absolute mess by the end of the war. Being the most highly battle honored ship in history came at the price of being one of the most beat up ships in history is as well. The US Pacific Fleet put it's ships through pure hell for four years. A lot of said ships were only kept running by stubborn crews and prayers.
Though I have been aboard CV10 Yorktown which is a great example of American industry for WWII. Also, unlike CV6, she wasn't falling apart from over a hundred bomb/torpedo/suicide hits.
Though I have been aboard CV10 Yorktown which is a great example of American industry for WWII. Also, unlike CV6, she wasn't falling apart from over a hundred bomb/torpedo/suicide hits.
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For ship to ship battle, she really wasn't. Most of her actions were as air cover escort which while vital in war time. Doesn't match the ships talked about prior. Being a good ship that serves it's place is different then being a great ship that shapes history.Mikey wrote:Yeah, the Intrepid wasn't involved in much at all.
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Seafort said that the USS Intrepid "acheived fuck-all." The CV-11/CVA-11/CVS-11 has had an incredibly distinguished service record, including key involvement in the Marshalls, Truk, Leyte Gulf, the bombardment of Kyushu, Okinawa, etc. She was holed below the waterline during Hailstone, causing flooding and twisting her rudder, yet she continued on with the mission. Plus, she recovered the capsule and the men from Gemini 3. I myself am the one who praised HMS Warspite's record; but nobody could say that the USS Intrepid's service record amounts to "fuck-all."Deepcrush wrote:For ship to ship battle, she really wasn't. Most of her actions were as air cover escort which while vital in war time. Doesn't match the ships talked about prior. Being a good ship that serves it's place is different then being a great ship that shapes history.Mikey wrote:Yeah, the Intrepid wasn't involved in much at all.
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No, I didn't, I said that compared to the ones I listed they achieved fuck-all.Mikey wrote:Seafort said that the USS Intrepid "acheived fuck-all."
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Even so - "moderately less" =/= "sweet f.a."Captain Seafort wrote:No, I didn't, I said that compared to the ones I listed they achieved fuck-all.Mikey wrote:Seafort said that the USS Intrepid "acheived fuck-all."
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Which in itself is amazing when you compare that to the Saratoga CV-3.Deepcrush wrote:To be fair, CV6 Enterprise was an absolute mess by the end of the war. Being the most highly battle honored ship in history came at the price of being one of the most beat up ships in history is as well. The US Pacific Fleet put it's ships through pure hell for four years. A lot of said ships were only kept running by stubborn crews and prayers.
Though I have been aboard CV10 Yorktown which is a great example of American industry for WWII. Also, unlike CV6, she wasn't falling apart from over a hundred bomb/torpedo/suicide hits.
IMO, in hindsight the Enterprise should have been in the Bikini tests with the Saratoga. Simply put because the Enterprise would still be around as opposed to a bunch of Campbell soup cans.
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