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Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:40 pm
by Teaos
I dont see how we can "blame" Star Trek for not touching on the homosexuality issue. Its an entertainment show, not a social commentry, even if they did that several times.
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:37 pm
by Sionnach Glic
When said show likes to pride itself on pushing boundaries, you expect them to actualy start pushing. Hell, both TOS and TNG were full of moral-filled episodes designed to make you think about topical issues at that time.
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:39 pm
by Mikey
Yeah, I don't think it's "blame" so much as "wonder why they didn't."
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 8:49 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
Popular entertainment can be some of the most powerful means of getting a message out, to boot. However, the stigma over such things does seem to be easing with the younger generation (see the rising acceptance of civil unions even for conservatives)
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:41 am
by Mark
Ok, back to the arrow in Data's chest. I have a theory.
First, a sharp pointy blade WILL go through body armor wear a regular bullet won't. Maybe Data's physical "skin" is similar to Kevlar's properties.
Second, he didn't take any real damage from the arrow either. It just stuck in him. The robe covered the point of impact.
Third, it COULD have just been a non vital and thus un-protected part of Data's construction.
And for the record, the dumbest TNG episode is where everybody de-volved into some random animal or other. Period.
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:01 am
by Sionnach Glic
Maybe he upgraded himself after that incident?
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 11:05 am
by Mark
Possible.........even Data would have to see the irony of being shot in the "heart" by Troi, with an arrow.
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:20 pm
by Graham Kennedy
The bullet/arrow thing never bothered me. The arrow stuck in him, apparently penetrating some unimportant system but doing no visible harm. The bullets did no visible harm either. Do they bounce off, or do they stick in him just like the arrow did? I sure can't tell from watching.
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:44 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Fair point. Bullet proof doesn't necessarily mean that bullets bounce off him. Just that they don't penetrate deep enough to damage anything.
Same with the arrow.
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:32 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
... and something the size of an arrow would be a lot more visible sticking out of him than a bullet. The terminator was "bulletproof" in the same way: he'd get shot up, continue to function, and once the shooters had been Ahnold-ized, he'd just pull the rounds out of his cyborg body.
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:23 pm
by thelordharry
And when Lilly peppers Data in FC after he jumps down on her next to the Phoenix and it does him no harm. Compare this to poor old Ensign Lynch in the Dixon Hill holodeck situation in the same film. Watch your caboose Dix...
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 11:04 am
by steamrunner
How about the one where Beverly (ah...redheads

) dorks the energy being that dorked her grandmother...uhhh...that's just...uhhh
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 12:07 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 12:22 pm
by steamrunner
Yes...thank you, Admiral Rochey. I couldn't even bring myself to look up the name...
Re: The 8 Most Shamefully Stupid Star Trek: TNG Episodes
Posted: Sat May 09, 2009 2:34 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Yeah, that one sucked hard.