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Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:41 pm
by Sonic Glitch
I don't know, does this make me odd? But I enjoy trying to figure out time-travel paradoxes.

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:48 am
by Nickswitz
If you can figure them out youre genious
otherwise
yes, youre just odd

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:08 am
by Mark
me,myself and I wrote:I don't know, does this make me odd? But I enjoy trying to figure out time-travel paradoxes.

Not odd......masachitstic :lol:

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:46 am
by Chris Propst
I always thought the whole 29th century thing was kind of a bad idea. It's one of those things that sounds cool when you talk about it with your friends but upon further inspection seems kind of stupid. It's this kind of stuff that killed late-era Trek. These types of plotlines - which establish that the future will become one giant cleanup crew for people like Kirk, Picard, and Janeway, is (and I don't like saying this) inconsistent with the spirit of Star Trek.
This is what turned people off to the franchise. Getting more dedicated to temporal mechanics rather than interesting characters and stories. This is why TOS and DS9 will always be my favorites.
The whole temporal cold war thing from Enterprise really did seem meaningless. It was just a dead hook; "Hey, it worked on Voyager, let's use this same tepid plot device to substitute for taking real risks, writing stories well, or creating interesting characters!"

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:52 am
by Teaos
The reason time travel plot devices dont work is because you always, always, know they wont matter by the end of the episode due to the all mighty restart button.

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:37 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Exactly. The day I see a time travel episode have actual consequences is the day I give the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse directions.

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:10 pm
by stitch626
Maybe I should write one...

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:11 pm
by kostmayer
They might have a reset button, but they do give the opportunity to put the characters in situations you couldn't normally - Year of Hell, Yesterdays Enterprise, Twilight - all great episodes that couldn't have been filmed without the time travel device.

It could be argued that Yesterday's Enterprise had consequences - Picard's decision to allow Tasha to return to the past led to her daughter sparking the Klingon Civil War.

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:30 pm
by Mikey
Rochey wrote:Exactly. The day I see a time travel episode have actual consequences is the day I give the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse directions.
Hi, my friend Famine and I were supposed to meet Conquest and Death around here somewhere, but we've seemed to have exited the highway...

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:13 pm
by Sionnach Glic
YE wasn't really a time-travel episode, though. It was more of a spatial anomaly/alternate universe episode.

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 5:13 pm
by Sionnach Glic
YE wasn't really a time-travel episode, though. It was more of a spatial anomaly/alternate universe episode.

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 11:49 pm
by Mark
I disagree. The whole alternate timeline/alternate universe came to be be of...............

You guessed it! The E-C moving forward in time and not being destroyed when it should have been.

As soon as it went back to meet it's fate, the timeline was restored.

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:07 am
by Captain Picard's Hair
Mark wrote:I disagree. The whole alternate timeline/alternate universe came to be be of...............

You guessed it! The E-C moving forward in time and not being destroyed when it should have been.

As soon as it went back to meet it's fate, the timeline was restored.

Except for the presence of Tasha Yar in the past, hence Sela

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:08 am
by Mikey
*(#@& temporal mechanics!

Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 12:59 am
by kostmayer
In anycase, that episode seem to end with the standard reset, but the events in that episode had far reaching effects.