The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police
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Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police
I don't know, does this make me odd? But I enjoy trying to figure out time-travel paradoxes.
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If you can figure them out youre genious
otherwise
yes, youre just odd
otherwise
yes, youre just odd
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me,myself and I wrote:I don't know, does this make me odd? But I enjoy trying to figure out time-travel paradoxes.
Not odd......masachitstic
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I always thought the whole 29th century thing was kind of a bad idea. It's one of those things that sounds cool when you talk about it with your friends but upon further inspection seems kind of stupid. It's this kind of stuff that killed late-era Trek. These types of plotlines - which establish that the future will become one giant cleanup crew for people like Kirk, Picard, and Janeway, is (and I don't like saying this) inconsistent with the spirit of Star Trek.
This is what turned people off to the franchise. Getting more dedicated to temporal mechanics rather than interesting characters and stories. This is why TOS and DS9 will always be my favorites.
The whole temporal cold war thing from Enterprise really did seem meaningless. It was just a dead hook; "Hey, it worked on Voyager, let's use this same tepid plot device to substitute for taking real risks, writing stories well, or creating interesting characters!"
This is what turned people off to the franchise. Getting more dedicated to temporal mechanics rather than interesting characters and stories. This is why TOS and DS9 will always be my favorites.
The whole temporal cold war thing from Enterprise really did seem meaningless. It was just a dead hook; "Hey, it worked on Voyager, let's use this same tepid plot device to substitute for taking real risks, writing stories well, or creating interesting characters!"
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The reason time travel plot devices dont work is because you always, always, know they wont matter by the end of the episode due to the all mighty restart button.
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Exactly. The day I see a time travel episode have actual consequences is the day I give the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse directions.
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Maybe I should write one...
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They might have a reset button, but they do give the opportunity to put the characters in situations you couldn't normally - Year of Hell, Yesterdays Enterprise, Twilight - all great episodes that couldn't have been filmed without the time travel device.
It could be argued that Yesterday's Enterprise had consequences - Picard's decision to allow Tasha to return to the past led to her daughter sparking the Klingon Civil War.
It could be argued that Yesterday's Enterprise had consequences - Picard's decision to allow Tasha to return to the past led to her daughter sparking the Klingon Civil War.
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Hi, my friend Famine and I were supposed to meet Conquest and Death around here somewhere, but we've seemed to have exited the highway...Rochey wrote:Exactly. The day I see a time travel episode have actual consequences is the day I give the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse directions.
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YE wasn't really a time-travel episode, though. It was more of a spatial anomaly/alternate universe episode.
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YE wasn't really a time-travel episode, though. It was more of a spatial anomaly/alternate universe episode.
"You've all been selected for this mission because you each have a special skill. Professor Hawking, John Leslie, Phil Neville, the Wu-Tang Clan, Usher, the Sugar Puffs Monster and Daniel Day-Lewis! Welcome to Operation MindFuck!"
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I disagree. The whole alternate timeline/alternate universe came to be be of...............
You guessed it! The E-C moving forward in time and not being destroyed when it should have been.
As soon as it went back to meet it's fate, the timeline was restored.
You guessed it! The E-C moving forward in time and not being destroyed when it should have been.
As soon as it went back to meet it's fate, the timeline was restored.
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Mark wrote:I disagree. The whole alternate timeline/alternate universe came to be be of...............
You guessed it! The E-C moving forward in time and not being destroyed when it should have been.
As soon as it went back to meet it's fate, the timeline was restored.
Except for the presence of Tasha Yar in the past, hence Sela
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*(#@& temporal mechanics!
I can't stand nothing dull
I got the high gloss luster
I'll massacre your ass as fast
as Bull offed Custer
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I'll massacre your ass as fast
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In anycase, that episode seem to end with the standard reset, but the events in that episode had far reaching effects.
"You ain't gonna get off down the trail a mile or two, and go missing your wife or something, like our last cook done, are you?"
"My wife is in hell, where I sent her. She could make good biscuits, but her behavior was terrible."
"My wife is in hell, where I sent her. She could make good biscuits, but her behavior was terrible."