Ideas for new classes of starships

[Teaos]

I guess its just matter of opinion. I favor protection and survivability you favor redundency.

[Tsukiyumi]

I only voted for four nacelles because of the speed increase. Not much use for a battleship that shows up three days after the rest of the fleet.

[Teaos]

The fleet travels at the speed of the slowest ship in the fleet.

[Tsukiyumi]

The fleet travels at the speed of the slowest ship in the fleet.

Okay then, there's not much use for a fleet that shows up three days after the battle. The ability to mobilize and rapidly deploy your assets is a key doctrine in warfare.

[Teaos]

Battle doesnt happen until the fleet arrives. This ship only hits big targets that arent running or sits near important sites. It doesnt need to run around the quadrant, there are other ships such as the Promethius for that.

[Tsukiyumi]

So, say a hostile fleet of a hundred ships is detected heading for a certain system. Nearby ships are called to assemble into a defense fleet, but thanks to the battleship's low speed, they can't respond until days after the hostile fleet arrives. By which time, millions are killed.

In an attacking fleet, speed would still be a major factor; the slower the fleet is, the more time the enemy has to gather a defensive force. I'm just saying that speed is an important factor in the overall effectiveness of any warship - it doesn't matter how powerful it is if it's too slow to get into position in time.

[Teaos]

The Battleship is kept a bit behind the boarder which leaves plenty of warning on the enemy fleet.

The battleship either does a intercept or guards the target. The rest of the fleet, Sov's, Prommy ect harass the fleet.

[Deepcrush]

I guess its just matter of opinion. I favor protection and survivability you favor redundency.

I favor all three and by working them together you get a ship greater then the sum of its parts.

So, say a hostile fleet of a hundred ships is detected heading for a certain system. Nearby ships are called to assemble into a defense fleet, but thanks to the battleship's low speed, they can't respond until days after the hostile fleet arrives. By which time, millions are killed.

In an attacking fleet, speed would still be a major factor; the slower the fleet is, the more time the enemy has to gather a defensive force. I'm just saying that speed is an important factor in the overall effectiveness of any warship - it doesn't matter how powerful it is if it's too slow to get into position in time.

Agreed, though much of this will be solved by our supply stations. These will allow us to keep the Battleships near and dear to our hostile borders.

The Battleship is kept a bit behind the boarder which leaves plenty of warning on the enemy fleet.

The Battleship is kept where it is most needed. That would be on the border and not behind it. The further back the ship is the longer it takes to respond to an attack.

The battleship either does a intercept or guards the target. The rest of the fleet, Sov's, Prommy ect harass the fleet.

Agreed, the Battleship should be used as the backbone of the local fleet. Allowing the faster limbs to reach out and tag the enemy.

[Teaos]

Teaos wrote:
I guess its just matter of opinion. I favor protection and survivability you favor redundency.

I favor all three and by working them together you get a ship greater then the sum of its parts.

You cant have all three. You add more nacelles you drop protection.

The Battleship is kept where it is most needed. That would be on the border and not behind it. The further back the ship is the longer it takes to respond to an attack.

You keep it on the boarder people can easily dodge around it, you keep it behind the baorder by a bit and it can intercept.

[Tsukiyumi]

So, say a hostile fleet of a hundred ships is detected heading for a certain system. Nearby ships are called to assemble into a defense fleet, but thanks to the battleship's low speed, they can't respond until days after the hostile fleet arrives. By which time, millions are killed.

In an attacking fleet, speed would still be a major factor; the slower the fleet is, the more time the enemy has to gather a defensive force. I'm just saying that speed is an important factor in the overall effectiveness of any warship - it doesn't matter how powerful it is if it's too slow to get into position in time.

Agreed, though much of this will be solved by our supply stations. These will allow us to keep the Battleships near and dear to our hostile borders.

Okay, I did forget about the stations. Still, are we going to have one for every other sector bordering enemy space? What if a sizable threat emerged that would require the presence of two or three Paladins? Speed is a factor that cannot be neglected, and that's the main reason I voted for the four-nacelle design. The redundancy was just an added bonus.

[Teaos]

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Thats the original thread.

The 4 nacelle configuration by far had the majority.

Its a difficult configuration to work with.

[Tsukiyumi]

Its a difficult configuration to work with.

No doubt, but IMO, the increase to the speed was worth the downsides.

[Lt. Staplic]

do you have to buy it or can you just download it?

Well, it retails for several hundred dollars, so we can all guess how I got it...

No, I can't sorry.

[Deepcrush]

You cant have all three. You add more nacelles you drop protection.

Yes you can. You just find a balance between all three.

You keep it on the boarder people can easily dodge around it, you keep it behind the baorder by a bit and it can intercept.

If you keep it behind the border you're giving it a longer travel time. Give it 2 instead 4 nacelles and you're losing needed intercept speed. A warship is about balance. Big guns are great but worthless if you can't get them too battle on time.

Okay, I did forget about the stations. Still, are we going to have one for every other sector bordering enemy space? What if a sizable threat emerged that would require the presence of two or three Paladins? Speed is a factor that cannot be neglected, and that's the main reason I voted for the four-nacelle design. The redundancy was just an added bonus.

I would suspect that we should have one of our new stations in every unprotected sector and system. As to any sizeble threat. I had put forward an idea of multiple shipyards for the single use of Battleship production.

[Lt. Staplic]

You cant have all three. You add more nacelles you drop protection.

Yes you can. You just find a balance between all three.

it's going to be very difficult to protect even one pair of nacelles for 360 spherical degrees, the best way is exemplified by the Defiant, three, makes that design obsolete and makes it even harder and four nearly impossable.

While from any one angle you may be able to shield three, with four nacelles it's not easy to find hiding places for all of them. Even if some how you are magically able to shield any three from any angle your still leaving one open and at medium distance the best coverge you can get is armor, you can't envelop the nacelles into the hull like the Defiant did.