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Tyyr wrote:I love how they always find assholes like that for interviews.

Not really a matter of "finding" him. He's the founder of a major anti abortion organisation.

This is insane! Yeah lets shot a doctor for performing abortions which according to them is a sin in the eyes of god. Yet using there beliefes so is murder........ So I guess killing in cold blood is perfectly acceptable but god forbid someone do an abortion. Good freaking god....

I guess these guys never heard of that little "thou shalt not kill" thing. Oh, wait, that only applies if the victim in question is a proper God-fearing Christian.

Technically it's "Thou shalt not murder," in the original text.

Well, this is certainly murder.

No argument there.

Extremists have the power...to unite everyone against them. RIP Doctor Tiller. You did not deserve this fate.

Oh yeah: Bill O'Reilly Has Something to Say.

It's strange. On the extreme "pro life" end of the spectrum, they blow up abortion clinics, shoot doctors - rarely, but it happens. They harass and terrorise doctors, patients, and their families, routinely (one tactic I've heard of is to hand out leaflets to kids at the school the doctor's children go to with leaflets naming his children and explaining that their father murders babies for a living).

On the extreme pro choice end... what? So far as I am aware there has never been a single case of violence against anybody by any pro choice organisation or individual. Not one, ever.

I wonder why that is?

Because the extreme anti-abortionists are fucking crazy, whereas even the "extreme" pro-abortionists (if there even is such a thing) are relatively stable?

O'Reily is patriotic, disagree with his statements or not he does love his country. And as you can tell from his video he believes in the rule of law. Hey Kansas City Star is mentioned. We got a pretty good newspaper I think

O'Reilly is also a bombastic, egomaniacal flake.

GrahamKennedy wrote:I wonder why that is?

Because pro-choice includes the term choice. It's essentially not about enforcing one view or another; it's about allowing individuals to act according to their own views. It just can't make sense to say, "I'm going to forcibly convince you to act as your own conscience dictates, whether you like it or not!"

Kinda like saying, "Anarchists - unite and conquer!"

It also doesn't require any work, once abortion is legal. Everyone is free to do what they wish, no convincing or preaching required.

True but try explaining that to the wack jobs that lead the anti-abortion movement.

Frankly I'd like to hear what the pro-life movements plan is for all these babies (and their families) are if abortion is over-turned. Who is going to provide the extra money for them if the mother is poor, single or the family is a professional one who now has to sacrifice their time and wage. Do they support increased welfare spending, increased EI, a french-esque system, what?

Or is this just a case of *the community will provide* ie; church? Cue Elvis singing In the Ghetto.

No, I think they believe that it's more a case of "G-d will provide."

Meanwhile, I have a mental image of G-d saying, "What? I didn't get you into that situation."