CF Reservist Shot Tentmate In "Self Defense"

Captain Picard's Hair · Wed Jul 29, 2009 5:59 am

Tsukiyumi wrote:Sounds like a job for a battery of advanced lie detector tests.

Assuming they actually work...

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:07 am

Captain Picard's Hair wrote:
Tsukiyumi wrote:Sounds like a job for a battery of advanced lie detector tests.
Assuming they actually work...

The new EEG tests show serious promise. And that's why I said "battery", as in ten of them or more. It would at least suggest how truthful the guy is being.

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:04 am

When they found the guy's body, was his gun actualy loaded?

Post by **Tsukiyumi** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:26 am

Rochey wrote:When they found the guy's body, was his gun actualy loaded?

Good question.

Nickswitz · Post by **Nickswitz** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 3:12 pm

I wonder if anyone checked.

If the guy who was killed had PTSD he could have just grabbed the gun without loading or even caring and thought the other man was an enemy combatant, so, he may have pulled an empty pistol on the guy.

Mark · Post by **Mark** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 10:39 pm

Call Special Agent Gibbs and his team. They'll figure it out.

Otherwise, they are screwed. How can they prove beyond a reasonable doubt this guy is guilty?

Nickswitz · Post by **Nickswitz** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:19 pm

Mark wrote:Call Special Agent Gibbs and his team. They'll figure it out.

Love that show...

Sionnach Glic · Post by **Sionnach Glic** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:32 pm

Which show is that?

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:48 pm

Nickswitz wrote:I wonder if anyone checked.

If the guy who was killed had PTSD he could have just grabbed the gun without loading or even caring and thought the other man was an enemy combatant, so, he may have pulled an empty pistol on the guy.

Uh, PTSD doesn't work like that dude.

Nickswitz · Post by **Nickswitz** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:52 pm

Cpl Kendall wrote:
Nickswitz wrote:I wonder if anyone checked.

If the guy who was killed had PTSD he could have just grabbed the gun without loading or even caring and thought the other man was an enemy combatant, so, he may have pulled an empty pistol on the guy.
Uh, PTSD doesn't work like that dude.

It can... IDK if it's PTSD or another stress related malady, but one of them makes you basically think your in a dangerous position even if you are home and safe. It's usually agitated by visual or audio cues, sometimes olfactory cues as well...

Nickswitz · Post by **Nickswitz** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:53 pm

Rochey wrote:Which show is that?

The show is called NCIS, it's about NAVY cops, basically.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 11:57 pm

Nickswitz wrote: It can... IDK if it's PTSD or another stress related malady, but one of them makes you basically think your in a dangerous position even if you are home and safe. It's usually agitated by visual or audio cues, sometimes olfactory cues as well...

Yes PTSD does that (I happen to have it BTW) but it rarely, rarely ever manifests itself until your safely home. And it does not make your buddy who is likely not wearing a man dress appear as an enemy combatant, and given that it's not mentioned that either of them had it plus their young age and lack of previous tours...well that leads me to believe that's not what's going on here.

Nickswitz · Post by **Nickswitz** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:04 am

Yes, I realize that it wasn't mentioned, however isn't it only able to be seen through a psych exam, if so, then you really can't tell if the dead guy had it.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:08 am

Nickswitz wrote:Yes, I realize that it wasn't mentioned, however isn't it only able to be seen through a psych exam, if so, then you really can't tell if the dead guy had it.

A very extensive series of exams yes, let me ask you something; what makes you think the guy might have had it? Nothing in the article suggests it, nobody mentions odd behaviour or anything else that might hint at it. Frankly it's far more likely that the two are just idiots.

Nickswitz · Post by **Nickswitz** » Fri Jul 31, 2009 12:16 am

Cpl Kendall wrote:Frankly it's far more likely that the two are just idiots.

I agree with that, however, I am thinking it based on an article I read a few years back about PTSD causing a lot of friendly fire after the battles, and this reminded me of it. That said, I don't have that article available.

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