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Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 10:15 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Deepcrush wrote:No missles, no anti-aircraft weapons? Just sad....
Most of our modern ships don't carry more than one gun either; the job of anti-air and ship-to-ship are covered by various missiles and CIWS.

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 10:18 pm
by Aaron
That's because she was designed for light policing duties. Not everything requires a ship with a billion dollars worth of weaponary.

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 10:22 pm
by Tsukiyumi
It does carry two Exocets. Those things are pretty serious anti-ship weapons, and that cannon is fairly powerful with a high ROF (78rpm).

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:47 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Cann me over-careful, but I think I might look at this ship and just possibly notice the cannon...
Well, if they approached from behind then the cannon wouldn't be noticeable. If it were nighttime, that would also have helped to screw up any chances of recognising the ship for what it was.

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 11:51 pm
by Deepcrush
True enough.

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:47 am
by Foxfyre
US Navy uses deceptive lighting to simulate differnt ship types such as tankers, cruise ships, fishing boats ect........ If they were doing something similar and it was dark you might mistake that class of ship for a civie (such as a fishing boat).

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:50 am
by Nickswitz
Except it just so happened that that fishing boat had trained Marines (or French equivilant) with weapons and tactics. Yeah, I think it was slightly unfair to the pirates, but who cares, they don't really deserve fair.

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:59 am
by Tyyr
Call me a bastard, but I think their first mistake was bothering to take prisoners. A few rounds from the deck gun then let nature sort out the rest.

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:00 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
USS Aeon wrote:US Navy uses deceptive lighting to simulate differnt ship types such as tankers, cruise ships, fishing boats ect........ If they were doing something similar and it was dark you might mistake that class of ship for a civie (such as a fishing boat).
Deceptive lighting? How would that work? *Legit curious*

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 2:02 am
by Tsukiyumi
Tyyr wrote:Call me a b*****d, but I think their first mistake was bothering to take prisoners. A few rounds from the deck gun then let nature sort out the rest.
Agreed.
RK_Striker_JK_5 wrote:
USS Aeon wrote:US Navy uses deceptive lighting to simulate differnt ship types such as tankers, cruise ships, fishing boats ect........ If they were doing something similar and it was dark you might mistake that class of ship for a civie (such as a fishing boat).
Deceptive lighting? How would that work? *Legit curious*
I imagine, putting rows of lights at various heights, or extinguishing others to mimic the lighting profile of certain known ship types.

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 1:00 pm
by Sionnach Glic
At a distance, the only thing you'll see of a ship is its lights during night time. Setting lights at certain points can give your ship the impression of having a different shape than it really does.

Tyyr: I'm inclined to agree with you. As callous as it may sound, I really think we need to start setting examples of what happens to pirates.

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 5:44 pm
by Graham Kennedy
Actually she was designed to be a very light, small, cheap ship with minimal crew and capability. Low cost to operate, but therefore perfect for this kind of mission.

The gun is a 100 mm cannon. As well as that she carries two 20 mm cannon, plus the two Exocets mentioned before. She also has a helicopter; not sure if that's armed or not, but you have to imagine it can at least have a couple of GPMGs mounted on the doors. You'd be mad to take on a real Frigate or Destroyer in her, but that's really not what she's designed for.

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 7:41 pm
by Deepcrush
So she's a Diet-Frigate or something? :?

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:21 pm
by Tsukiyumi
Deepcrush wrote:So she's a Diet-Frigate or something? :?
It's the TAB of naval warfare.

Re: Shocking News - French Victorious in Combat

Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 8:50 pm
by RK_Striker_JK_5
Thanks, Rochey and Tsuki. That'd make sense.