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Rochey wrote:Or simply fire a torp on a course that will take a few minutes to hit the array, use the array to get back home, and then when you're gone the torp hits the array. Boom.

Kind of like the circling bullet at the end of "Wanted"? heh heh

Can't be sure that would work.

Why not? We can plot orbits today. Surely they can find the best spot and let the torp loose there.

Mark wrote:Kind of like the circling bullet at the end of "Wanted"? heh heh

Or that last torpedo in The Hunt for Red October for that matter.

If Voy had been a Neb, then the ship would have just cruised most the way home. Like the GCS she's most likely over loaded with supplies and fuel. They'd stop once in a while to refuel with some race. Kick the shit out of the Kazon and for the better part of the trip.... just relax and make babies.

If the trip is going to take that long you may as well not bother.

Ok, run with me on this..........

If a Nebula has a slightly slower speed but can maintain it for longer without stopping due to greater reserves, wouldn't it have made up the time?

Yep, and for that matter there no evidence that their sustainable top speed is any slower. The E-D was stated to have a sustainable (over decades) speed of 700c (The Price), and that's likely to be a rounded estimate rather than a calculated number. It makes sense for the Neb to be similar.

So then the speed diffference wouldn't be all THAT huge. Especially since Voyager had to stop SOOOO damned often

Yeah, and hopefully they would look at the random places and say, hey this isn't that important, let's just keep going.

Unlike what Janeway did. All the time.

That raises an interesting question. If Voyager hadn't gone off on so many wild goose chases every week, would that have been more effective at getting them home or no? And how would that have effected crew casualties?

Well, most of the casualties were obtained through space combat, so I don't think that it would really affect the # of crew killed, but you never know.

okay, looked up some figures on ditl:

Voy max cruise: 9.975
Voy max Warp: 9.985 1 hr

Neb max cruise: 9
Neb max Warp: 9.4 12 hr

so according to these stats Voy could run circles around the nebula. and the theory about stopps to catch up depends on the speed...

at the max cruise speed it would take Voy
12 years, 222 days, 4 hrs, 42 mins, and 12.7334 seconds to return home

It would take a Neb
46 years, 59 days, 8hrs, 48 mins, and 19.312 seconds to return home.

some how I don't think Voyager spent an extra 33+ years just looking for supplies, so in theory Voyager was still much faster.

Lt. Staplic wrote:okay, looked up some figures on ditl:

Voy max cruise: 9.975
Voy max Warp: 9.985 1 hr

Neb max cruise: 9
Neb max Warp: 9.4 12 hr

so according to these stats Voy could run circles around the nebula. and the theory about stopps to catch up depends on the speed...

at the max cruise speed it would take Voy
12 years, 222 days, 4 hrs, 42 mins, and 12.7334 seconds to return home

It would take a Neb
46 years, 59 days, 8hrs, 48 mins, and 19.312 seconds to return home.

some how I don't think Voyager spent an extra 33+ years just looking for supplies, so in theory Voyager was still much faster.

Of those warp figures, only the Max warp for the Intrepid class are canon, everything else is made up. As much as I applaud Graham for his work, the non-canon figures have no validity. And lets not forget that Voyager got home because of acts of plot...err help. It was projected to take 70 years, we know jack and squat about how long they could maintain max cruise before they ran out of fuel but it's obvious that they couldn't run flat out for twelve years going by the helmsmens own statement.

You were looking at maximum cruise, not average cruise which is sustainable.

Also with out so many stops and looking around Voyager wouldnt of made all those jumps to get them home sooner.