Women's Studies

[Reliant121]

Indeed. I made a point in Drama saying that women IN GENERAL have weaker bodies and smaller frames than males of equivalent age, and both mrs. Partridge and Mrs. Heismann had a go at me for being Sexist.

[Mikey]

Case in point. Good example, Reliant. I will never believe that stating a biological fact = sexism.

[Captain Seafort]

Heh, I remember once getting it an argument with the (female) history teacher and half the girls in the class once, for describing Emily Pankhurst as "the Osama bin Laden of the 1910s".

[Mikey]

I got into a similar argument in an ancient literature class, for saying that Achilleus' and Agamemnon's treatment of Briseis in the Iliad wasn't sexist because it had to be judged by the standards of Mycenaean a/o Hellenic Greece.

[Teaos]

I once told a woman to STFU and get back into the kitchen... apparently that was sexist

[Tsukiyumi]

I once told a woman to STFU and get back into the kitchen... apparently that was sexist

[Grundig]

I think the world needs more hermaphrodites to act as impartial judges in matters like this. Otherwise it's forever going to be men vs. women.

I read somewhere that Jamie Lee Curtis was born a hermaphrodite. I don't believe it after seeing her in True Lies. All I can say is she would have made a terrible man.

[Mikey]

True hermaphrodites are exceedingly rare. There are forms of hermaphroditism (is that the word?) associated with Klinefelter's Syndrome, etc., but in those cases preferential female neurological differentiation generally still apply; those folks wouldn't be "impartial" as such.

[Teaos]

And then theres the wanna be hermaphrodites...

[Mikey]

[Sionnach Glic]

[Captain Picard's Hair]

I've been kept away from DITL lately by other things... it is odd that though the idea is that everybody should be equal, the execution ends up feeling just the opposite. Of course, in the past people had to do everything we can now do by pressing a button and googling pics of naked celebrities while we wait for a machine to finish manually and there was no time to quibble about what your place was if you wanted to have food on the table.

[Captain Picard's Hair]

You know, I just came across a headline about gender roles changing in some less developed nations out of necessity, and it occurs to me that we only have the luxury of having these arguments because of how well off we are. A tangent, yes, but an interesting one, and this is DITL after all.

[Sionnach Glic]

Aye, as much as we may bitch about it, we're lucky to have our governments and socieities the way they are.

[Grundig]

I guess. I'm pretty cynical towards our government in the US. Ugh, I'm having to suppress a rant here.

My sociology professor told me that Feminism is based on equal rights. I guess I can see how that used to be the case, decades ago. And even today, in some ways women still deal with sexism. I just worry that it's becoming taboo for men to look out for their rights. I mean, the phrase Men's Rights sounds like the punchline of a joke. That could be dangerous.

Here's an article that describes one of the things I mentioned. I haven't spent any time refereeing the article - its facts may or may not be trustworthy.
Girls are Beneficiaries of Gender Gap
Children & Families

Diane Ravitch, Nonresident Senior Fellow, Governance Studies

The Wall Street Journal
17-Dec-98 -
Some of us grew up with the image of reporters as tough-minded skeptics. Yet there were no tough-minded reporters in sight in 1992, when the American Association of University Women released its report "How Schools Shortchange Girls." Every newsmagazine, newspaper and network television program did a major story on it, without making any attempt to examine the underlying evidence for the AAUW's charge that the schools were harming girls.


The schools, we were told, were heedlessly crushing girls' self-esteem while teachers (70% of them female) were showering attention on boys. Worst among their faults, according to the report, was that the schools discouraged girls from taking the math and science courses that they would need to compete in the future. The report unleashed a plethora of gender-equity programs in the schools and a flood of books and articles about the maltreatment of girls in classrooms and textbooks.



Now the U.S. Department of Education has released a report on high school transcripts that demolishes the AAUW's claim that girls were not taking as many courses in mathematics and science as boys. This new report shows that in both 1990 and 1994, female high school graduates had higher enrollments than boys in first- and second-year algebra and in geometry; among the graduates of 1994, there were essentially no differences between boys and girls in their participation in precalculus, trigonometry, statistics and advanced placement calculus.



In science courses, the picture was much the same. Female graduates in both 1990 and 1994 had higher enrollments than boys in both biology and chemistry; the only course that had a higher male enrollment was physics, studied by 27% of the boys but only 22% of the girls. In every other science course, the differences between boys and girls were slight or favored girls. Overall, girls are much better prepared by the schools than are boys: The latest figures show that 43% of female graduates took a rigorous college-preparatory program in 1994, compared with only 35% of boys.



To make matters worse for the AAUW, all of its other charges have been definitively refuted in a careful review of the research by Judith Kleinfeld of the University of Alaska. Prof. Kleinfeld found, for example, that there is little evidence that girls have lower self-esteem than boys or that boys get more attention in the classroom than girls.



Far from shortchanging girls, the schools have been the leading edge in creating gender equity in the past generation. Girls get better grades than boys; have higher scores in reading and writing; are more likely than boys to take advanced placement examinations; and are likelier to go to college. In 1970, women were only 41% of all college students. Today, female students receive 55% of all bachelor's degrees and 55% of all master's degrees. Indeed, many university campuses have begun to worry about gender imbalance, since men are a decided minority on virtually every campus.



Men still get a majority of professional degrees, but even here the numbers are changing fast. In 1970, women earned only 8% of medical degrees; by 1995, that number had increased to 39%. In 1970, women received only 5% of law degrees; in 1995, 43%.



At the same time that the AAUW ginned up a nonexistent crisis about girls, the press totally ignored the data on boys. In school, boys are 50% more likely to repeat a grade than girls and represent more than two-thirds of the children placed in special education with physical, social and emotional problems. Boys are far more likely to be given Ritalin for attention deficit disorder. And talk about a crisis in self-esteem: young men (ages 15 to 24) are five times more likely to commit suicide than young women.



The shameful aspect of the AAUW's phony crisis-and of the media's gullibility in turning it into conventional wisdom-is that it diverted attention from the large and genuine gaps in American education, which are not between boys and girls, but among racial groups. African-Americans and Hispanics are far behind their white peers on every measure of school achievement. On the tests administered by the National Assessment of Educational Progress, average black and Hispanic 17-year-olds score at the same level as average white 13-year-olds. African-American boys, in particular, are at high risk of dropping out without graduating high school; among black college students, nearly two-thirds are female.



Alarmist rhetoric about the schools solves no problem, especially when the problem itself was invented for use in national advertisements and direct mail campaigns as a fund-raising tactic. One can only dream about what might have happened if the AAUW had focused the same amount of energy on recruiting talented women to teach in schools where minority kids are concentrated or on sponsoring charter schools for needy children.