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Bishop Ussher created a chronology based on the ages and times described in the bible. He decided that the Earth was created on Sunday October 23, 4004 BC.

A lot of other people have derived dates using the bible and they do generally tally to around 4000 BC, give or take a few decades. The link describes how Ussher did it in detail.
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I'd like to backdate that to October 9, so it conincides with my birthday.
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You're a believer - ask god. :)
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And so people are stupid.
While men have been on the Earth (according to the Bible, to satisfy you atheists, no offense) for 6000 years, it is foolish to assume that God did not take time to create the Earth.

I mean, come on. People don't draw blueprints and mass produce something in one day. Things take time.
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I had a teacher in high school that used to argue that same point (I was a jewish kid at a christian highschool. Fun, huh?) and he would always go on about the world only being 4000 years old or so. So I asked him how he could explain why dinosaur fossils have been carbon dated millions of years ago. He said carbon dating isn't an exact science. But that's a pretty HUGE variance, wouldn't you say?
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stitch626 wrote:And so people are stupid.
While men have been on the Earth (according to the Bible, to satisfy you atheists, no offense) for 6000 years, it is foolish to assume that God did not take time to create the Earth.

I mean, come on. People don't draw blueprints and mass produce something in one day. Things take time.
What would the word "day" mean to an entity outside of linear time, anyways?
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Very little......but to the yutzes who created the word day, ........................
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Reminds me of the old joke.

"God, what's a billion dollars to you?"

"A penny."

"What's a billion years to you?"

"A second."

"Well... can I have a penny?"

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In answer to your question Tsu...
In the Bible (at least in the beginning of Genesis) a day is used to indicate an unspecific period of time, though based on the context (stars forming, Earth cooling), this period of time was most likely longer than a literal day (don't tell the fundamentalists).
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stitch626 wrote:In answer to your question Tsu...
In the Bible (at least in the beginning of Genesis) a day is used to indicate an unspecific period of time, though based on the context (stars forming, Earth cooling), this period of time was most likely longer than a literal day (don't tell the fundamentalists).
Yeah, that's pretty much what I meant. If such a being exists, its concept of time would be incomprehensibly different than ours. Even claiming to understand such a being's will or state of being is assinine.
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So, how does the Pope claim to speak for God then?
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Mark wrote:So, how does the Pope claim to speak for God then?
In a very assinine fashion.
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:pope:

We have changed our position here at the Vatican. We now acknowledge that our world is no longer the center of the universe, we orbit the sun and it doesn't orbit us, and the world is indeed round, not flat.

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