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Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:57 pm
by Mikey
Rochey wrote:Dark matter, perhaps?

Personaly, I'm hoping for clear evidence of another inteligent race in the galaxy.


I'm still waiting for evidence of the first one.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:10 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
Rochey wrote:That doesn't answer my question of why they'd withold that information.
Because a person is smart. But people are dumb, stupid, panicky animals and anyone who's been the target of a riot knows it

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:19 pm
by Sionnach Glic
Because they have absolutely nothing to gain by releasing it, and face a lot of risk in doing so.
What risk?

Mikey: :lol:

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:19 pm
by Duskofdead
Rochey wrote:
Because they have absolutely nothing to gain by releasing it, and face a lot of risk in doing so.
What risk?

Mikey: :lol:
I don't know whether your questions are serious or not. Why did the gov't "neglect' to mention how dangerous radiation was for like 20 years? Why does it, today, suppress knowledge and testing for mad cow? (Right now, as we speak, Bush personally is asking a higher court to reverse a lower court decision that dairy farms and meat packers have a right to voluntarily test for mad cow, which some companies want to do in order to assure export buyers and ensure no liability from lawsuits.)

To control risking any chance of a panic, and possibly interchangeably or as an extension, to control any chance of something hurting the marketplace. Panic bad. Something that makes people not keep up their normal buying habits, bad.

Aliens, way bad for both reasons. Add in religious zealotry and fears that aliens would be "hostile" and our government would not be in the realistic position to assure anyone that they could defend us, and it gets worse.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:32 pm
by Blackstar the Chakat
Aliens, way bad for both reasons. Add in religious zealotry and fears that aliens would be "hostile" and our government would not be in the realistic position to assure anyone that they could defend us, and it gets worse.
I remember a cover story on either Popular Science or Popular Mechanics(I was a subscriber to both at the time and I usually get them confused) where it talked about the US government's plan if an extra-terrestrial landed on earth. To sum up, capture it, take it to a lab, make sure there are no contaminants, viruses, ect. and then keep it for study after confiscating it's vehicle.

If any aliens knew about the US government's plans I'd expect that's the reason why they haven't visited yet.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:40 pm
by Duskofdead
ChakatBlackstar wrote:
Aliens, way bad for both reasons. Add in religious zealotry and fears that aliens would be "hostile" and our government would not be in the realistic position to assure anyone that they could defend us, and it gets worse.
I remember a cover story on either Popular Science or Popular Mechanics(I was a subscriber to both at the time and I usually get them confused) where it talked about the US government's plan if an extra-terrestrial landed on earth. To sum up, capture it, take it to a lab, make sure there are no contaminants, viruses, ect. and then keep it for study after confiscating it's vehicle.

If any aliens knew about the US government's plans I'd expect that's the reason why they haven't visited yet.
Yeah seriously, even Tijuana isn't that bad.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:48 pm
by Captain Picard's Hair
It was indeed a bit of a letdown to open the thread to find that NASA's big announcement is an announcement that a big announcement is coming. Well, it's piqued my interest. Wonder why they're so coy?

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:51 pm
by Duskofdead
Captain Picard's Hair wrote:It was indeed a bit of a letdown to open the thread to find that NASA's big announcement is an announcement that a big announcement is coming. Well, it's piqued my interest. Wonder why they're so coy?
For the EXACT same reason Blizzard acts like announcing the date of a patch or update or fix or expansion for World of Warcraft is like an issue of critical national security when people ask for a date, or details. :) To avoid the embarrassment or public scrutiny over slipping deadlines if they give too much detail of what they plan to do, and when.

Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:54 pm
by Mikey
To be fair, Blizzard protects its information better than the US guv'mint.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:05 am
by Monroe
The reason they don't reveal the fact that they're aliens out there is because of the conquest of the Aztecs and Inca by the Spanish. The Spanish brought diseases and war and easily destroyed century old cultures that were sure of their place in the universe. There's a lot to risk by revealing aliens exist. Look what happened in the 1930s.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:09 am
by Duskofdead
Monroe wrote:The reason they don't reveal the fact that they're aliens out there is because of the conquest of the Aztecs and Inca by the Spanish. The Spanish brought diseases and war and easily destroyed century old cultures that were sure of their place in the universe. There's a lot to risk by revealing aliens exist. Look what happened in the 1930s.
I'm a little confused, are you saying that aliens coming down might do to us what the Spanish did to central American societies? Or that even the knowledge of them might create that effect?

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:15 am
by Monroe
Well both. The effect would be greater of course if they came down in person.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:31 am
by Duskofdead
Monroe wrote:Well both. The effect would be greater of course if they came down in person.
Since it's unprecedented and also people have been very desensitized with "false" or rather "systematically discredited" stories about aliens, it's hard to say exactly what would happen. But I agree a response on the stupid side would surprise me the least.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:22 am
by Mikey
Klaatu - verata nicto.

Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:55 am
by RK_Striker_JK_5
So, they found Kahn Singh and the other Augments?