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ChakatBlackstar wrote:Well, if the relationship started strong but the two couldn't stay together because, for example one had to move to another country or something for their job. It would be unfair to force someone to be for all intents and purposes, single in the hopes that when or if the other person comes back that they'll be both, the same person you fell in love with, and that they remained just as faithful.

Huh? If that relationship was as strong as you say, then you go with your partner. Or, they find a reason to stay. In a truly succesful relationship, there are only two factors that matter - one partner and the other. Everything else - one's family or the other's, hometown, etc. - is secondary.

tsukiyumi wrote:No, it's part of ape nature.

...Unless we think humans should embrace their animalistic side, in which case, a lot of people would get their heads smashed in for acting like jerks around me. Or, if I thought their girlfriend was hot, and wanted her immediately single. Or, if I got cut off in traffic. And anyone who mangles Tool on karaoke. And, anyone with diamonds in their teeth and a sideways-facing tennis visor. And, etc....

We're supposed to be evolved, so why act like apes if we desire to seperate ourselves from them on a social level? I think self-control and discipline are some of the most important aspects of being truly civilized.

Seconded. Hell, even wolves are monogamous for life.

If that relationship was as strong as you say, then you go with your partner.

Do you believe it is fair to force the partner, who you claim to love, to be chaste while they may have physical and psychological needs that you can't fulfil while you're away?

Hell, even wolves are monogamous for life

Aren't they on the endangered species list?

ChakatBlackstar wrote: Do you believe it is fair to force the partner, who you claim to love, to be chaste while they may have physical and psychological needs that you can't fulfil while you're away?

FFS, marriage is about taking the good with the bad. If the husband/wife gets a job abroad then you go with them. WTF do you think military spouses do?

Aren't they on the endangered species list?

Yeah, from habitat destruction. And illegal hunting thanks to the old "they killed my sheep" screeching.

Cpl Kendall wrote:

ChakatBlackstar wrote: Do you believe it is fair to force the partner, who you claim to love, to be chaste while they may have physical and psychological needs that you can't fulfil while you're away?

FFS, marriage is about taking the good with the bad. If the husband/wife gets a job abroad then you go with them. WTF do you think military spouses do?

um...I always thought they stayed at home and went to their jobs, if they had one, while their spouse went to fight the war. You don't expect me to believe a military spouse has never cheated on their spouse do you?

ChakatBlackstar wrote:
um...I always thought they stayed at home and went to their jobs, if they had one, while their spouse went to fight the war.

I mean when they get posted around the country and abroad. There are things that military members do that require them to live in other countries.

You don't expect me to believe a military spouse has never cheated on their spouse do you?

Don't be obtuse, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

Cpl Kendall wrote:

You don't expect me to believe a military spouse has never cheated on their spouse do you?

Don't be obtuse, that's one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

Please tell me that I'm misunderstanding this. Are you saying that military spouses never cheat on their spouses?

ChakatBlackstar wrote:
Please tell me that I'm misunderstanding this. Are you saying that military spouses never cheat on their spouses?

You are and they do cheat, some not all.

Cpl Kendall wrote:

ChakatBlackstar wrote:
Please tell me that I'm misunderstanding this. Are you saying that military spouses never cheat on their spouses?

You are and they do cheat, some not all.

Oh, thank goodness I misunderstood you. For a minute I was like, "he can't be that nieve can he?"

Anyway, if these men were in a poly relationship then it wouldn't be such a big deal when she sleeps with another guy.

ChakatBlackstar wrote:
Oh, thank goodness I misunderstood you. For a minute I was like, "he can't be that nieve can he?"

Anyway, if these men were in a poly relationship then it wouldn't be such a big deal when she sleeps with another guy.

Hahahaha! Oh...your serious.

Come on, how many men are going to have a "marriage" consisting of a guy other than him and a bunch or woman? A more likely scenario is that he goes away and she fucks wife #2.

Cpl Kendall wrote:

ChakatBlackstar wrote:
Oh, thank goodness I misunderstood you. For a minute I was like, "he can't be that nieve can he?"

Anyway, if these men were in a poly relationship then it wouldn't be such a big deal when she sleeps with another guy.

Hahahaha! Oh...your serious.

Come on, how many men are going to have a "marriage" consisting of a guy other than him and a bunch or woman? A more likely scenario is that he goes away and she fucks wife #2.

Hey, it's up to her who she sleeps with. I'm not judging

ChakatBlackstar wrote:

If that relationship was as strong as you say, then you go with your partner.

Do you believe it is fair to force the partner, who you claim to love, to be chaste while they may have physical and psychological needs that you can't fulfil while you're away?

Hell, even wolves are monogamous for life

Aren't they on the endangered species list?

Please do me the favor of READING what I post before responding to it incorrectly. How are you forcing someone to be chaste if you are still together? If the relationship is a good one, then you make a joint decision about where you go - together. If you're willing to split up because you can't agree on where you live, then it was never "successful."

And yes, thank you for backing up my point about human's animalistic behavior. Wolves were on the endangered species list, not because of birth rates as you imply without any knowledge of the situation, but because of humans' misrepresentations of lupine habits; because of continued territorial pressure and overhunting based on those misrepresentations; and because of failure to uphold the law - and even providing state-backed loopholes in the case of Alaska - regarding aerial hunting or "land and shoot" hunting.

Mikey wrote:Please do me the favor of READING what I post before responding to it incorrectly. How are you forcing someone to be chaste if you are still together? If the relationship is a good one, then you make a joint decision about where you go - together. If you're willing to split up because you can't agree on where you live, then it was never "successful.".

Clearly we have different definitions of a successful relationship.

So you would consider an adult, permanency-intending relationship "successful" even if it would fall apart over something like moving?

Mikey wrote:So you would consider an adult, permanency-intending relationship "successful" even if it would fall apart over something like moving?

There are more variables involved then that, for my definintion of successful at least.

ChakatBlackstar wrote:
Hey, it's up to her who she sleeps with. I'm not judging

Your not but you don't matter. It's what her spouse thinks.