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Mikey wrote:I think what Aketimogous is saying - a sentiment which Daisy Khan has acknowledged, BTW - is that the Sufi group should have expected resistance. They probably should. However, this mitigates neither of two facts:
a) the Sufi group already had that property, and it's not really a market in which one can go swapping around multiple-use city properties as if they were baseball cards, and;
b) whether or not they could have predicted some loudmouths doesn't make the loudmouths any more right.

And its been 9 years. I can understand someone grieving and being irrational for it, but after 9 years the irrationalness tends to go away.

So far, everyone I've talked to who lost someone that day (or shortly after) doesn't care if they build a mosque.

You know, now that I think of it, it's kinda insensitive for people to build any religious shrine, synagogue, temple, mosque, church or anything similar anywhere in this country.

It's insulting to the millions of my people who were massacred or enslaved, so the whole country should be off-limits, and any such existing structures should be torn down.











And, this is where the sarcasm smiley would be if we had one.

Four problems Tsu...

You're people aren't White so they don't rule the world.
...and...
You're people aren't Black so no one takes pity on them.
...and...
You're people aren't Asian thus smart enough to confuse everyone.
...and...
You're people are Arabic so they don't have enough oil to bribe all the above.

While your logic is perfect, I was speaking from the same gut-reaction, illogical position as the mosque protesters.

Just a little turnabout, which, as we all know, is fair play.

Tsukiyumi wrote:While your logic is perfect, I was speaking from the same gut-reaction, illogical position as the mosque protesters.

Just a little turnabout, which, as we all know, is fair play.

Of course but it was a great chance to just slap someone, so I couldn't turn it down.

My point is, their position on this matter starts from a hypocritical standpoint from the word go.

Not that they'd care much about logic.

I was going to say, logic hasn't entered their mind since the start, they are bigots or morons who refuse to listen to reason or logic because it proves just how wrong they are.

Nickswitz wrote:I was going to say, logic hasn't entered their mind since the start, they are bigots or morons who refuse to listen to reason or logic because it proves just how wrong they are.

French, sounds like the French.

Remarkably, You're quite right.

There's a very strong reason I hate the french. And not because Britain has warred with them for the last millennium but because they treated me like shite when I went on a school trip there. I was 11 for godsake but they all hated me because I spoke what little french I knew with a very strong accent. Old ladies spat on me, I was refused service in three separate locations and it took half an hour of my maths teacher shouting to get on a damn bus. Where some fat bloke shoved his arse in my face.


/rant.

Well, it turns out that not all of the right wing are complete bigoted morons....

Ron Paul
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Reliant121 wrote:Remarkably, You're quite right.

There's a very strong reason I hate the french. And not because Britain has warred with them for the last millennium but because they treated me like shite when I went on a school trip there. I was 11 for godsake but they all hated me because I spoke what little french I knew with a very strong accent. Old ladies spat on me, I was refused service in three separate locations and it took half an hour of my maths teacher shouting to get on a damn bus. Where some fat bloke shoved his arse in my face.


/rant.

You got a stroke of very very bad luck, mesay.

When was that?

4 years ago, school trip to Caen.

Reliant121 wrote:4 years ago, school trip to Caen.

Right. 2006... At the worst of Bush's unpopularity, if you discount the Iraqi Invasion, 2003?

I'd venture you were the (unlucky) victim of a burst of hostility between your two countries. Also, please remember the difference of behavior between the two culture. Being that kind of unpleasant isn't that uncommon from the French (that is why they got the kind of reputation they got), as for Americans, it's only reserved for people you want to deliberatly humilate and inflict the worst possible treatment possible, so you probably perceive more insult than actually was meant.

A French can very possibly treat you like that one month, and the next invite you over for dinner to make you taste his most recent vintage. They are like that. Remember Jean-Luc's brother?