The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police
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The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police
I'm watching "Drone" right now, and this is the prime example of what I'm thinking about here:
Why do the temporal police allow a piece of 29th century technology to stay in the 24th Century?
Why do the temporal police allow a piece of 29th century technology to stay in the 24th Century?
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Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police
Because the writers require it to be so.
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Because the temporal police draw their staff from the same pool that produced Janeway?
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Ew, Janeway bred?
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Do they even know about the mobile emitter? At the end of the episode where Doc gets the emitter the new Braxton doesn't even remember Janeway stating he never experienced "that" timeline. So it would seem that whenever you alter time you actually jump to another timeline which branches off from the point of alteration.
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1) Braxton's shuttle should have detected the emitter then - he was right in front of VoyagerHarley Filben wrote:Do they even know about the mobile emitter? At the end of the episode where Doc gets the emitter the new Braxton doesn't even remember Janeway stating he never experienced "that" timeline. So it would seem that whenever you alter time you actually jump to another timeline which branches off from the point of alteration.
2) He was able to detect Voyager out of time in a different timeline, so apparently the temporal police can distinguish different timelines.
Besides, if the Temporal Police couldn't look into different timelines, but these exist due to time travel, their existence would be pointless (which takes us back to the original topic, of course...)
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If Voyager prevented the accident in the first place, then Braxton never would have had a reason to come after them, and they never would have ended up in the past, never would have gotten the emitter, and never stopped the accident. But if they didn't stop the acciedent then Braxton would come and try to destory them, thus tossing them back in time, where they found the emitter, and then prevented the accident.....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Ouch, my brain!
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This is why I almost always stay away from time travel in my stories. It's hard to have it make any sense at all.
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Hence, Trek uses it all the timeTsukiyumi wrote:This is why I almost always stay away from time travel in my stories. It's hard to have it make any sense at all.
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Hey, who needs sense when you can make dollars?
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Re: The Moble emitter and the Temporal Police
Which is why, after watching Enterprise and their temporal cold war bit, I felt I needed a drink. (Not so good for someone on the wagon, but it illustrates my point)
Incidentlay, I think I read on Wikipedia that it was suggested that Data was the Captain of the E-J. (don't even want to try and figure out the reasoning behind that one)
Incidentlay, I think I read on Wikipedia that it was suggested that Data was the Captain of the E-J. (don't even want to try and figure out the reasoning behind that one)
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There is a proper explanation for this.
The temporal polices job is not to preserve the natural time line but the prefered time line.
With out the emitter Voyager might not have ever made it home and with out them getting home the Borg would have never been crippled ect ect.
Leaving that one little bit of tech helped a lot with out massive changed to the time line.
The temporal polices job is not to preserve the natural time line but the prefered time line.
With out the emitter Voyager might not have ever made it home and with out them getting home the Borg would have never been crippled ect ect.
Leaving that one little bit of tech helped a lot with out massive changed to the time line.
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But how vital was the emitter really in getting Voyager home?Teaos wrote:There is a proper explanation for this.
The temporal polices job is not to preserve the natural time line but the prefered time line.
With out the emitter Voyager might not have ever made it home and with out them getting home the Borg would have never been crippled ect ect.
Leaving that one little bit of tech helped a lot with out massive changed to the time line.
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With out it the doctor couldnt have become the emergency command hologram and heloed out when he did.
Along with the other times he saved the day.
Along with the other times he saved the day.
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